Sig Factory SBR's

[Dunderway]

I know there is not a lot of love for Sig rifles here, but I thought this was pretty interesting. I searched this topic and could only find some of the super high priced Sig SBRs being sold by different dealers a few years ago. This seems to be a new development.

The msrp for these is actually $150-$200 less than the non NFA equivalents.



http://www.sigsauer.com/Catalog/shor...el-rifles.aspx

[Winnerkd]

Well, there's a good reason we don't speak too highly about SIG around these parts. Real SIG rifles, the kind that are made in Switzerland are extremely high quality rifles. I know this is cliche, but they are built like tanks and practically bomb proof. The fit and finish is the closest thing to a work of art as a firearm can be. I have had the pleasure to shoot a few dealer sample versions, and they are nice!

Fast forward to today, the only SIG that operates in the United States is Exeter, NH SIG or SIG USA, US SIG, etc. These SIG rifles are NOT even in the same zipcode in terms of quality and finish as the original SIG rifles. Yet, SIG USA insists on marketing them as the second (or perhaps third) coming of the Lord and Savior 550 series rifle to US soil. This rifle is no different. While cosmetically it looks SOMEWHAT alike a SIG 552/3. It's nothing like them, I think the only SIG rifle that comes close (but still falls short) is the West Coast Armory SIG 551.

In short, it's not something I'd consider buying.

[SteyrAUG]

Just curious, are they a 552 or 553 internally? Anyone know?

[Dunderway]

Well, there's a good reason we don't speak too highly about SIG around these parts. Real SIG rifles, the kind that are made in Switzerland are extremely high quality rifles. I know this is cliche, but they are built like tanks and practically bomb proof. The fit and finish is the closest thing to a work of art as a firearm can be. I have had the pleasure to shoot a few dealer sample versions, and they are nice!

Fast forward to today, the only SIG that operates in the United States is Exeter, NH SIG or SIG USA, US SIG, etc. These SIG rifles are NOT even in the same zipcode in terms of quality and finish as the original SIG rifles. Yet, SIG USA insists on marketing them as the second (or perhaps third) coming of the Lord and Savior 550 series rifle to US soil. This rifle is no different. While cosmetically it looks SOMEWHAT alike a SIG 552/3. It's nothing like them, I think the only SIG rifle that comes close (but still falls short) is the West Coast Armory SIG 551.

In short, it's not something I'd consider buying.

I've read quite a bit about them here and understand the reasons for not liking them, and the shortcomings of the USA guns. Like I said, I just thought it was interesting that SBRs are being offered and cheaper (at least stated msrp) than the 16" guns at that.

[lloydkristmas]

Cant speak too highly of their guns, but I do wish more companies would follow suit and offer SBR's as a part of their main line of weapons. Come on FN, HK, etc. Lets get some factory SBR SCAR, PS90, and MR556's please

[Dunderway]

Just curious, are they a 552 or 553 internally? Anyone know?

What's with the questions? I was waiting for you and Templar to drop some knowledge into this thread.

It does look cool. If I had the extra cash lying around I would probably have to get my Miami Vice on.

[SteyrAUG]

What's with the questions? I was waiting for you and Templar to drop some knowledge into this thread.

It does look cool. If I had the extra cash lying around I would probably have to get my Miami Vice on.

I don't own any of their US guns so I literally don't know much about this particular SBR.

[Dunderway]

Cool, for some reason I thought you had made some comparisons of the 551a1 vs. the Swiss guns. I couldn't even comprehend your 552 vs. 553 question. It would be cool if Sig USA/Arms stepped up their game on these SBRs though.

[JoshNC]

Just curious, are they a 552 or 553 internally? Anyone know?

I believe these are based on the 556 Pistol/Patrol Carbine length gas system. This is a shortened 551 system and is about a half inch longer than the piston of the 553. It is the same diameter as the 550/551/556 gas piston head and not the smaller diameter 552/553 piston head.

I know there is not a lot of love for Sig rifles here, but I thought this was pretty interesting. I searched this topic and could only find some of the super high priced Sig SBRs being sold by different dealers a few years ago. This seems to be a new development.

The msrp for these is actually $150-$200 less than the non NFA equivalents.

Sig Exeter completely soiled the bed with the 556. The only 556s I currently own are a 556 that I SBRd and had converted to full 552 spec with a 552 parts kit and a 556 Pistol that I SBRd. The rest of my 55x rifles are Swiss and I can say that unless Sig Exeter truly gets their act together I won't be buying any more domestically made 55x iterations that are based on the 556.

If you want a 55x SBR, try to find one of the approximately 80 Swiss 552-2 title-1 rifles that Midwest Distributors sold, file a form-1, and remove the faux suppressor.

I couldn't even comprehend your 552 vs. 553 question.

Take a look here:
http://m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=76374

[Sigmax]

As a ex-Sigophile and a owner of one of those 552's I will be the first to point out about the litany of things that SIG has done to screw up the 556 series. And the company's relative fall from grace has also been well documented.

That said I always give props to a company, even grudgingly, when they release factory sbr's to the public. If you can find someone who will sell you their 552 definitely go for it, but you will only get mine if I am on my death bed. Otherwise if you can get a good deal one of their 551-a1's can be a fun range toy. And at least as effective as some of the HK clones I see people running in competition.