What is the purpose of all the guns, gear training?

[BT2012]

Charles,

You haven't answered Submariner's question .

[Charles]

Dude's, several people have posted while I was typing. [B]I am not questioning gear. I am questioning gear over knowledge and skill![B]

Why do you feel compelled to be the one that "Get's in guys heads" over this topic??

Is it THAT important to you??

Are you on a quest to enlighten the masses??

You come across as sort of "Yodasque" like you just discovered the "riddle of steel" and can't wait to tell others...But first you have to "Understand us all" before you do....

Just my observation...

Harv, your in left field with that stuff.

And now, good sir, what is the purpose of your guns, gear and training? Are you in the service?

submariner


Nah. I make think this shit up while playing HALO 2.




Hell maybe its just me wonering why the mass majority of talk is about flip-up front sights and what year model RAV is the best, when most can't load, fire, and reduce a malfunction....

[Charles]

Charles,

You haven't answered Submariner's question .

And what was that?

[Submariner]

The dead white guys who wrote the Second Amendment also wrote The Militia Act of 1792. Read through it and note the gear each male, 17 to 45, was to furnish, at his own expense, along with his rifle or musket for his training.

However, I am saying, that if you believe it is your duty, your responsibility, to be able to protect yourself, your loved ones, and your community, shift your focus toward that.

How do advise us to "shift our focus toward that?"

BTW, the question I previously asked was:

And now, good sir, what is the purpose of your guns, gear and training? Are you in the service? A peace officer? If you are either and your employer provides them, why do you need privately owned guns and gear as well as training to use them?

You remark was non-responsive.

I make think this shit up while playing HALO 2.

[Abraxas]

Thank you for that link Submariner

[Colt6920]

I didn't really know where to put this, so.........



I just had a conversation about this, and it has been bugging me for quite a while, so I thought I would ask... What is the purpose of all the guns, gear and training? Lets overlook "self-defense", and the Mil. guys that get paid to do it for a bit, and discuss why is it that people spend thousands of dollars on guns, gear, and training, hours a week on forums talking about the same, for an event that is not likely to happen?

Is it enjoyment? The "coolness" of it? A repressed 12 year-old Red Dawn fantasy? Why do you do it? Really think about it.

Why do you think something is wrong with? It is not your money or time being spent. It is not illegal. Most here would say it is a right.

Your statement "What is the purpose of all the guns..." is as far as I need to read as you make your views clear that there is no "need" for most people to have guns and training. Even though that is not fully what you printed it does not take a fortune teller to see what is implied.

[Charles]

The dead white guys who wrote the Second Amendment also wrote The Militia Act of 1792. Read through it and note the gear each male, 17 to 45, was to furnish along with his rifle or musket for his training.

Thank you.


Apparently this has been taken wrongly by quite a few. I must have worded it poorly. Sorry.


Here's my oppinion on why someone who owns a gun, gear and trains, should-

The whole issue of guns, gear, training, etc., is looked at all wrong. It isn't about "rioting", though it could be. It isn't about clearing your home, though it could be. It is about fulfilling your duty as an American citizen. It is about being prepared. If that means filling sandbags at the edge of town because of flooding, so be it. If it means providing food and shelter during a crisis, fine. If it means going into the bush, recruiting, training, and leading your neighbors in a guerilla war against the "ruskie" invaders , all the better.
The point is, you were given a set of responsibilities about two-hundred years ago. Part of those responsibilities is having a rifle and knowing how to use it. Knowing how to load, fire, shoot accurately, and a basic knowledge of small unit tactics. In short being a "riflemen". It isn't about your gun "collection", tac-fu fashion, or the latest super-duper shortdot. It is about knowledge, skill and responsibility.

A person with a strong mind, skill set, and training, can be dropped in the middle of the African bush with his carbine, knife, canteen, and start a war! The same can not be said about the magazine poster boy loaded with his 416, SIG, CIRAS, MICH, Sordin's, Oakley's boots, and trendy outdoor wear.

[Redmanfms]

Nevermind. Others are covering the ground.

[Submariner]

The point is, you were given a set of responsibilities about two-hundred years ago. Part of those responsibilities is having a rifle and knowing how to use it. Knowing how to load, fire, shoot accurately, and a basic knowledge of small unit tactics. In short being a "riflemen". It isn't about your gun "collection", tac-fu fashion, or the latest super-duper shortdot. It is about knowledge, skill and responsibility.

No disagreement here. Why didn't you say this in the first place?

[scottp999]

Hope for the best, prepare for the worst.

I like your Red Dawn comment. The truth is the standard of living (real -adjusted for inflation earnings) in this country is going down. When or if it will stabalize in the near future is anyone's guess. As the economy goes south burglaries and violent crimes from more desperate people increases. We have already had more smash and grab burglaries in the last 6 months in my neighborhood then we had in the last 10 years.

Guns are a fun hobby
I like shooting in friendly competitions
I like introducting friends to the sport
I like feeling like I can defend myself in my home (no concealed carry in my area)

The federal government is 53 trillion in debt as of last September and it is accelerating. about 40 trillion is from socialism in our country (medicare and social security). People are clamouring for more socialism. Our currency is being inflated in supply and it is being destroyed. The dollar is down 40% in just over 5 years per the USD Index. This time last year interest on the national debt was 40 million dollars per hour. We are over-extended as a nation and when credit is tightened our standard of living will drop.

Sheep get sheered, pigs get fat, and hogs get slaughterd. I don't want to be any of them. Everyone should be looking out for their family and friends with good skills and supplies.



Financial Report of the United States Government: http://fms.treas.gov/fr/

Flow of Funds Accounts of the United States: http://www.federalreserve.gov/Releases/z1/

Grandfather Federal Dept Report: http://mwhodges.home.att.net/debt_a.htm