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    Question To MOE or not to MOE

    This is my question. Subject : 6920

    Looking to replace my handguard. I have read the other thread, with basicly the same question.

    Im not looking for a ladder rail and Im leaning tword the MOE.

    My question is ... What am I missing here? What is available out there?

    The Magpul MOE @ $30.00

    or

    DD Omega @ $260.00

    This is quite a price gap, no? What am I missing

    Thankyou

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    My question would be, what do you want the hand guards to do? What is your goal? Why do you want to change them out? Answer these questions and now you can look specifically at models that fill those purposes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turk182 View Post
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    The Magpul MOE @ $30.00

    Plastic, non free floating minimal rail space, short less hand space, less money

    or

    DD Omega @ $260.00

    12 in of free rail space top ,left, right or bottom, free float, allows for extended hand placement, more durable more space more freedom more money
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    Both serve their intended purpose, get what you need and want. when building a possible life saving tool price should take a back seat to quality if you think you want a rail buy it now because selling shit you bought to buy better shit never workouts for you.
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    With a DD rail you can run it over with a truck and throw it out of a helicopter and it will protect the gas tube. I have both the DD Ris ii and a MOE carbine hand guard and I like both for what they are. The only reason I picked up a MOE though was to mount a light. Other than that its not much different than a stock hand guard .

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    Why?

    Why do you need a rail. Plan to hang a laser or light off of it?

    6920's are very light, handy and reliable. Unless you need to tacicol it out, I would leave it as is.

    Personaly I think the MOE looks like cheap shit like most of magpul's gear.

    If you want a decent rail for good money, look into a KAC RAS. They wont require any modification and are around $150 bucks if you look. Same rail thats on most m4carbines in the .mil.

    When it comes to rifles, lighter is better, all things being equal.

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    Blasphemy

    I am very satisfied with MOE furniture, and prefer it to standard GI handguard and stock. IMHO, everyone who tries to justify a freefloat on a carbine is either over-estimating their shooting ability or has too much money to waste. If you are able to change your POI due to forces on the handguards at carbine shooting distances, you need to seriously re-evaluate your form and support of the rifle. I fully expect to feel the heat after this post Good luck with your furniture choice. MOE all the way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shorts View Post
    My question would be, what do you want the hand guards to do? What is your goal? Why do you want to change them out? Answer these questions and now you can look specifically at models that fill those purposes.
    Thankyou for you reply
    Maybe a light, maybe. I do like the QD socket idea & would use it.

    Id like to change them out because they just feel 'fat'. Not to mention it reminds me of one of my first rifle style BB guns, kinda cheap-ish.

    Usage.. Steel, local range and I own my land and am willing to drop any coyote I see. No hunting

    I have a 15-22 for the opossum, we had an entire family this year.
    I mow with a 22A1 with 5.5 HB for the rock-chucks (little chip-n-dale looking ground rat/mole/thing)

    J

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    [QUOTE=TurretGunner;1530908]

    Unless you need to tacicol it out, I would leave it as is.

    [QUOTE]

    I believe your looking for 'Tacticool

    I have a 22 if I want to add a disco ball

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    Quote Originally Posted by yellow50 View Post
    With a DD rail you can run it over with a truck and throw it out of a helicopter and it will protect the gas tube.


    With any, and I mean ANY luck. I will not be doing these things. I hope

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    Quote Originally Posted by FeltaDorce View Post
    I am very satisfied with MOE furniture, and prefer it to standard GI handguard and stock. IMHO, everyone who tries to justify a freefloat on a carbine is either over-estimating their shooting ability or has too much money to waste. If you are able to change your POI due to forces on the handguards at carbine shooting distances, you need to seriously re-evaluate your form and support of the rifle. I fully expect to feel the heat after this post Good luck with your furniture choice. MOE all the way.


    Thankyou for the honest answer. Im thinking MOE also.

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    If you're only looking at price, then you're looking at it incorrectly.

    For what it's worth, the MOE handguard is one of the most cost-effective upgrades for the AR15 platform. It's lightweight, it's robust, and it's cheap. However, if you find the need for the best accuracy possible out of your existing weapon, and/or auxiliary rail-mounted add-on's, then you'll likely outgrow the MOE and wanna look at a quality rail.
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    Re: To MOE or not to MOE

    I like my MOE furniture. Its comfortable and adding a light is easy. If you don't need the rail real estate and it fits your hands well go for the MOE. Fit and comfort can make a big difference.

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    To MOE or not to MOE

    IWC has a MOE handguard with a QD socket pre-installed. They also make mounting hardware for lights that fit the MOE handguards.
    This isn't an illegal gun, it's an "undocumented protection device". Don't be so insensitive.

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    MOE - 30
    Surefire G2X - 65
    IWC SMC light mount - 65
    IWC QD socket - 25
    VCAS sling (w/ QD) - 65

    Total = 250 < the example rail you mentioned

    This is very close to my main AR's config and it meets all my HD, ranch gun, range needs. Can't imagine it not doing the same for you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rackham1 View Post
    MOE - 30
    Surefire G2X - 65
    IWC SMC light mount - 65
    IWC QD socket - 25
    VCAS sling (w/ QD) - 65

    Total = 250 < the example rail you mentioned

    This is very close to my main AR's config and it meets all my HD, ranch gun, range needs. Can't imagine it not doing the same for you.
    This.

    I bought a 6920 and jocked it out with a DD omega rail, etc. etc. After actually using it, I put an MOE on my SBR and outfitted it like rackham. For me, the MOE provides 95% of the functionality of the rail at about 15% of the price...

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    For me the MOE has all the function I need for only having a light attached and provides a comfortable grip that rails or stock handguards can't provide. Go to your local gun store and get a hands on feel would be the best advice I could provide.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Turk182 View Post
    Thankyou for you reply
    Maybe a light, maybe. I do like the QD socket idea & would use it.

    Id like to change them out because they just feel 'fat'. Not to mention it reminds me of one of my first rifle style BB guns, kinda cheap-ish.

    Usage.. Steel, local range and I own my land and am willing to drop any coyote I see. No hunting

    I have a 15-22 for the opossum, we had an entire family this year.
    I mow with a 22A1 with 5.5 HB for the rock-chucks (little chip-n-dale looking ground rat/mole/thing)

    J

    From this I would say a MOE hand guard would be something to consider. The carbine length is inexpensive, lightweight and feel better than the stock guards - more grab-able if you will with the slightly slimmer(?) profile, smoother in hand. My stock guards are 6.4oz and the MOE is 6.8oz. The aluminum handguards are nice, but more expensive and unnecessary for my purposes a this point in time. They are also slightly heavier (slightly is 4+oz).

    I changed mine out for similar reasons as you - wanted something different from stock. I don't need rail space but there is room for small rail pieces to be installed for small or situational accessories depending on the outing. My purpose for my rifle is land/coyote/hog - ranch rifle if you will. It is not my primary pd and not a duty piece.

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    I love my MOE hand guards. The shape feels much better than the standard ones to me and you can mount a light to them with ease.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Turk182 View Post
    Thankyou for you reply
    Maybe a light, maybe. I do like the QD socket idea & would use it.

    Id like to change them out because they just feel 'fat'. Not to mention it reminds me of one of my first rifle style BB guns, kinda cheap-ish.

    Usage.. Steel, local range and I own my land and am willing to drop any coyote I see. No hunting

    I have a 15-22 for the opossum, we had an entire family this year.
    I mow with a 22A1 with 5.5 HB for the rock-chucks (little chip-n-dale looking ground rat/mole/thing)



    J

    Please PM Senior Member "markm" on the usefulness of QDs. Be sure to insert earplugs prior to hitting "Send"!

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    Forget MOE handguards, outside of aesthetics they offer nothing (edit: over a regular handguard IMO).

    I suggest (and went with) the VLTOR CASV free float no mod rail customizable handguard.

    http://www.midwayusa.com/find?userSearchQuery=casv

    http://www.vltor.com/casv-sub.htm
    Last edited by ColtSeavers; 02-01-13 at 20:12.

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