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Thread: Why DHS has been hoarding ammo. The answer. I think.

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    Are prisons under the DHS budget?
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    Why DHS has been hoarding ammo. The answer. I think.

    You mean to tell me the DHS isn't hoarding ammo to institute martial law and kill off anyone who gets in the way of "the administration's" wishes?

    Like I said in the carriers thread...

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    Bottom line, there is no rational reason why DHS needs close to 2 billion high end defensive rounds on hand. During the height of the Iraq War ammo consuption averaged 5-6 million rounds per month. Basically the DHS has enough ammo on hand for over 25 years of combat operations in Iraq.

    I do understand the budgeting aspect but I do think something else is up.
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    Where are you guys reading that these purchase orders are to be filled in full? All the info I've seen is that they are contract orders UP TO xxx amount meaning when call and want 30 million rounds production gets diverted to fill their request as it takes priority. In the end the artificial demand just keeps supply dried up .

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    1) they're IDIQ contracts and, 2) DHS and agencies under their umberella never have been and still are not the only folks that're gonna be using that ammo...

    ....there's a lot of wasted tinfoil being cinched down when there's plenty of REAL scariness to be worried about. Lotsa folks wasting energy hand-wringing over this, for no better reason than it being easier to hand-wring than it is to read the contracts....

    Point of order: How, precisely, does one hoard stuff that hasn't been made, much less delivered, yet...?
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    Having trained alongside a few DHS guys (e.g., BORTAC, etc) ...

    I notice they train with their issued duty ammo.

    Makes me cringe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 30 cal slut View Post
    Having trained alongside a few DHS guys (e.g., BORTAC, etc) ...

    I notice they train with their issued duty ammo.

    Makes me cringe.
    I bet you don't mind picking up the brass

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ironman8 View Post
    I bet you don't mind picking up the brass
    Shhhh!
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    Also keep in mind that it's been over 1,400 days since a real and actual federal budget has been passed. Some of the bureaucratic gymnastics necesary to keep the bus rolling are quite astonishing, to say the least.

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    Ive a question to ask, BEFORE I relay what was told to me today by a friend of mine who goes to trade shows to buy ammo for my local
    favorite gunshop.
    My question is this..conspiracy or 5 year purchase or whatever, is or is not this going to affect both availability and price, when the ammo makers start fullfilling those gub-ment contracts?
    Tossing all the tin foil b.s. aside for a moment, Im not understanding the 5 year purchase of ammo. If youve got money left over for the year, year after year, do you buy 5 years ahead every year? Or once every 5 years?
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