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    Quote Originally Posted by tb-av View Post
    There are plenty of people that could care less about a person being killed but you better not harm a hair on an animal.

    Hard to believe Z doesn't have a single male peer in FL though.

    This whole ordeal shaped up like a reverse OJ trial from day one.

    He made his bed though. Hopefully the evidence will actually decide the outcome and not become a co-written piece of fiction.

    Since this is murder don't they only need one juror that has doubt?
    I'd think the defense could argue (or at least try...) there's not a chance in hell he will get a fair trial in FL.
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    I don't know what actually happened that night, and I have even less of an idea how all of this will turn out in the end. What I do know is that the the level of intrusionary, high-level, politically-driven scapegoating in this case has already reached a shocking -- and downright shameful -- level. There will be no objective justice applied here, as that particular exit was passed long, long ago.

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    Woman tend to over think things especially a emotional issue such as a death of a person. I'm thinking the prosecution is going to have TM's mother and father up on the stand crying a river on how they have viciously lost their son to a gun toting racist. The moms on the jury are going to relate and this is going to hurt GZ in the long run.

    Also the gun in the home jurors are a wild card since we do not know what relationship they have with their firearms. Are they the actual owners of the guns or are the guns just in the house because a spouse owns them. Do they shoot or have CCW's, are the guns only used for hunting etc.

    There are many things I feel are relative to the case that the judge did not allow such as prior L/E contacts, school records on discipline, the phone and text messages and Face book posts TM made in the days leading to the shooting. These things could impact on the state of mind TM had at the time he was shot.

    Also I still don't understand why MZ's lawyers didn't first go for the Stand your Ground hearing to see if the charges could be dismissed if the actions of MZ are determined to be S/D. They obviously have a judge who is sticking it to MZ by not allowing many things which would be beneficial to MZ's case and once this judge ruled on the stand your ground hearing then she could not do the trail and maybe MZ's lawyers would have a better going with a new judge.

    In the end I think the all woman jury will be piss scared of possible riots and vote to convict.

    Time will tell but Florida better load up with provisions just in case.
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    Zimmermam Jury seated. Trial starts Monday.

    Quote Originally Posted by tb-av View Post
    There are plenty of people that could care less about a person being killed but you better not harm a hair on an animal.

    Hard to believe Z doesn't have a single male peer in FL though.

    This whole ordeal shaped up like a reverse OJ trial from day one.

    He made his bed though. Hopefully the evidence will actually decide the outcome and not become a co-written piece of fiction.

    Since this is murder don't they only need one juror that has doubt?
    And not a single Black person...

    Cuts both ways, bro. Both ways.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mjolnir View Post
    And not a single Black person...
    6 jurors = 16.6% per juror

    Blacks are < 10% in that county. So it is within statistical norms.

    Males are 50%, so statistically he should have had 2-4 males on the jury.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renegade View Post
    6 jurors = 16.6% per juror

    Blacks are < 10% in that county. So it is within statistical norms.

    Males are 50%, so statistically he should have had 2-4 males on the jury.
    Remember that the jurors are picked from the 40-person pool created following the voir dire, which is a result of prosecution and defense choices. That pool does not necessarily reflect the racial and gender breakdown of the area.

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    Zimmermam Jury seated. Trial starts Monday.

    Quote Originally Posted by HackerF15E View Post
    Remember that the jurors are picked from the 40-person pool created following the voir dire, which is a result of prosecution and defense choices. That pool does not necessarily reflect the racial and gender breakdown of the area.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mjolnir View Post
    And not a single Black person...

    Cuts both ways, bro. Both ways.


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    Oh, I know... that's not going over well at all if he gets off. Also why only 6 jurors? I thought a murder trial would have 12.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tb-av View Post
    Oh, I know... that's not going over well at all if he gets off. Also why only 6 jurors? I thought a murder trial would have 12.
    Its only murder two so no chance of the death penalty so six jurors only in FL.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tb-av View Post
    Oh, I know... that's not going over well at all if he gets off. Also why only 6 jurors? I thought a murder trial would have 12.
    Only capital murder (in Florida, at least). GZ is charged with 2nd degree murder.

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