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    Magpul CTR Stock QD Sling Use

    Anyone replace their standard Magpul butt stock for a Magpul CTR in order to use the QD sling swivel point?

    If so, did you like placing your sling at that location?

    Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abraham View Post
    Anyone replace their standard Magpul butt stock for a Magpul CTR in order to use the QD sling swivel point?

    If so, did you like placing your sling at that location?

    Thanks!
    I have had CTRs and MOEs. After the last lower I configured, I pretty much decided that I would never buy a CTR stock again. The quality is fine, but the friction lock is useless and the stock can still be easily moved, and the QD cup has no rotation limiting. For those reasons, the CTR is basically just a marketing gimmick in my opinion. Fine in quality, just useless/needless features. Your best option, if you really want a QD attachment point, is to go with a B5 stock or shell out for one of the MOE QD stock mounts from IWC. Or just forgo the middleman and use the slots in the stock.

    As for placement of the rear sling mount, I have found that I prefer to have the sling on the rear of the stock facing outward (right hand side of the carbine for a right handed shooter) as I do not have the buckle or webbing between the stock and me when shouldered.
    Others like theirs on the receiver end plate, or any other configuration. You'll have to figure that preference out for yourself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meplat View Post
    After the last lower I configured, I pretty much decided that I would never buy a CTR stock again. The quality is fine, but the friction lock is useless and the stock can still be easily moved, and the QD cup has no rotation limiting. For those reasons, the CTR is basically just a marketing gimmick in my opinion. Fine in quality, just useless/needless features.
    I have to ask, what rifle did you install your CTR on? Are you certain you had mil-spec CTR on mil-spec receiver extension, or commercial/commercial? I ask because my CTR locks up rock-solid on my BCM RE, no movement at all. I much prefer it to the MOE standard I had on it before, and even that was a perfectly acceptable stock. Have you discussed this issue with Magpul?

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    I bought a CTR for the sling mount. It works just as well as any other stock with QD cups. The lack of room for swivels essentially makes it rotation limited.

    I run VCAS or Huskey slings, both 2 point slider. Thats the location I prefer to have a sling at.
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    I bought an IWC QD mount for a the MOE buttstock that came on my DDM4V7lw. I bould buy a CTR before I would buy a MOR and the IWC mount. The money might be the same but I like the friction lock on the CTR and the built in QD mount. I also like the STR, bought one for a S&W10.

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    My rifle that runs a CTR has the sling secured in it's OD cup on the stock, which only allows for about a quarter turn of rotation due to the position of the cup on the stock. It's been reliable and comfortable, and I really do like the set up. It also locks up rock solid with the friction lock, so I'm wondering if Meplat has a COM-Spec stock on a MIL-Spec RE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CrazyFingers View Post
    I have to ask, what rifle did you install your CTR on? Are you certain you had mil-spec CTR on mil-spec receiver extension, or commercial/commercial? I ask because my CTR locks up rock-solid on my BCM RE, no movement at all. I much prefer it to the MOE standard I had on it before, and even that was a perfectly acceptable stock. Have you discussed this issue with Magpul?
    2 BCM lowers with untouched REs, 1 BCM lower with factory and A5 REs. Mil-spec CTRs. 4 different CTRs at various times. They work fine. The stock will not have that small amount of play in it that a normal stock will, but they are easily shifted by hand still even with the friction lock. As someone on this forum stated before, worrying about how it "locks up" is for people who spend more time fiddling with and admiring their AR rather than shooting it, as any play in a stock will disappear when shouldered unless it is wildly out of spec, in which case something else needs to be looked into entirely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meplat View Post
    As someone on this forum stated before, worrying about how it "locks up" is for people who spend more time fiddling with and admiring their AR rather than shooting it, as any play in a stock will disappear when shouldered unless it is wildly out of spec
    Of course it will, and my MOE stock was a perfectly serviceable stock. However, I prefer the lockup on the CTR, and I cannot move it by hand once it's locked. I fail to see how that has anything to do with "admiring their AR rather than shooting it", but that's a different discussion and probably not helpful to either of us.

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    With the STR and SOPMOD I use the buttstock QD sockets when using my sling in a two-point configuration (I also use the QD end plate for a single point configuration). Since I'm running the MS3-QD sling, the QD end of the sling plugs into the right-hand side socket while the paraclip end is connected to a fixed RSA on the rail just a little forward of where the rail meets the upper receiver. Using the right side QD socket as opposed to the left side allows me transition my the left side without having to unsling or choke. Works perfect for me. YMMV
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    I've got both the MOE with the IWC QD set and the CTR. I bought the CTR afterwards for a new rifle because the IWC attachment with the MOE stock would have cost more than the CTR stock alone. For me, it was simplicity when buying a new stock.

    I don't have issues with the no limit attachment points as the swivel tends to limit itself on the stock.
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    I bought the CTR to replace my MOE stock, I wanted a QD socket and really liked the friction lock option. I don't think I'd buy another stock besides the CTR, it works perfect for me. Personally I like the QD location, it swivels well, and I have no problem with the sling getting caught between my shoulder and the stock's pad. If you like the MOE, you'll love the CTR.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abraham View Post
    Anyone replace their standard Magpul butt stock for a Magpul CTR in order to use the QD sling swivel point?

    If so, did you like placing your sling at that location?Thanks!
    No I did not like it. I prefer reciever end plate sling mounts now. Burnsed over QD also.
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    Thanks everyone for your responses.

    I've hit the research button and found a wide variety of preferred sling point locations and fully appreciate they're a personal fit kind of thing.

    Currently, I have a QD Rotation Limited Sling MOUNT-N-SLOT installed on the standard Magpul hand guard that came on my Colt LE6920 with Magpul furniture. Looks neat and clean and works like a champ!

    On the other end, I have an ambidextrous hook type sling attachment point located just behind and below the charging handle area, if that's understandable...?

    I've learned having a QD on one end of my sling and a hook type on the other is functional, but not as efficient as having both sling ends set up with QD's.

    Thus, my desire for a CTR which comes with a built in QD sling point.
    However, according to the research attaching a sling near the butt end can be problematic...

    Or not?

    Further thoughts?

    Thanks again.

    P.S. I have no clue (as I don't know what constitutes one from the other) as to what CTR I'll need if I buy one - Commercial or Milspec?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abraham View Post
    P.S. I have no clue (as I don't know what constitutes one from the other) as to what CTR I'll need if I buy one - Commercial or Milspec?
    Well, if your rifle has a mil-spec receiver extension, then you'll need a mil-spec butt stock. On the other hand, if you have a commercial receiver extension...well, you probably guessed where this is heading.

    http://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=50674

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    If you've got a stock Colt LE6920 it'll be a mil spec buffer tube.
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    My CTR is rock solid and yes I bought it just for the QD mount. I have found that using the socket on the right side instead of the left makes the rifle hang more natural. At least for me it does. ymmv?
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    Thanks again all.

    Update: I just learned Mount-N-Slot sells a QD swivel point that can be added to/bolted on the basic Magpul butt stock - it's called a QD Rotation Limited Sling MOUNT-N-SLOT for Buttstock.

    If I'd known that to begin with I'd never have started this thread.

    Arrrrgggh, live and learn....

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    Love the CTR. I run the QD button through the triangle cutout and attach it on the other side. Normally I hard mount on stocks like the imod and sopmod. I don't like QD rear mount because of how the sling contacts my face, but when it's attached on the opposite side it's just like how hard mounting feels and you get the plus of the QD.
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    Help. I'm new to the AR platform and a fairly new member. I have a CTR and just bought a Vickers VCAS. I want to thread the sling through the top horizontal slot on the CTR but when I try to collapse the stock, the buffer tube gets in the way. How can I do this?

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    If you have a CTR stock you should take advantage of the QD socket on it...buy a QD sling attachment and hook it to your VCAS (Good call by the way, IMO that's the best sling on the market).
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