Billet uppers and lowers

[1Shot]

Greetings all. My first post here and I am looking for info on billet uppers and lowers.

First off let me say I don't claim to know much about AR's but have had at least one most of my adult life. Shot some NRA highpower a few years ago and have been playing with a RRA since last June. All that means is that I know which end the bullets come out of.

I have the bug to build one of my own. This will be a long term project and I will have many questions as I go.

I figure the first thing to get is the upper and lower. Not interested in anything but billets for this build.

I have been lurking around this site for awhile now and have gathered quite a bit of information I think.
Planned use for this thing will be range plinking, coyote hunting and maybe some 3 gun.

I looked at Sun Devil, and by that actually had some uppers and lowers in my hands. Really liked them but one thing bothered me. The "standard" trigger guard. I came back here and learned that there are at least some makers that have an "integral" trigger guard and I believe that is what I want.

Please tell me your opinions and pros and cons of each maker. I don't even know how many or who makes what I want. The Magpuls look good but from what I can tell they are not available. Please post links as to where to get whatever you suggest.

Thanks in advance.

[Hoplophile]

I've heard that the Magpul lower is on the back burner for them so I'd skip it unless you don't mind a long wait.

In addition to the Sun Devil,

http://www.tacticalinc.com/t15bdx-bi...er-p-1082.html

and

http://www.jprifles.com/1.2.1.php

Are the two options I know of for lower receivers. For the upper there's JP, Larue and Vltor.

[Powder Burns]

The POF lowers are expensive ($300 neighborhood) but feature an integrated trigger guard. The new gen III ones also have an ambidextrous bolt catch, but it uses a proprietary part/receiver design. The $18 dollar option is to get a magpul trigger guard or the rra winter guard when avaliable.

[1Shot]

Now I see that Sun Devil is making a lower with the integral trigger guard so I am back interested in them. I also saw another SD upper the other day that had a forward assist so I went back to their website and they had both of the above listed.

Any pros or cons from anyone who has experience with these?

I am thinking the forward assist would be the way to go.

[Stickman]

There are a few billet threads in this section, you may get some good info from them. The trigger guards are nice, but you can drop in a Magpul trigger guard on any lower you want, so don't let that be your end deciding factor.

[Shihan]

Now I see that Sun Devil is making a lower with the integral trigger guard so I am back interested in them. I also saw another SD upper the other day that had a forward assist so I went back to their website and they had both of the above listed.

Any pros or cons from anyone who has experience with these?

I am thinking the forward assist would be the way to go.

DS isnt making the lower with the trigger guard any longer. They only made a few and then canceled production

Ths SD uppers are very good and I would have them but they donot have M4 cuts.

I will never own a upper without a FA.

[b_saan]

you can drop in a Magpul trigger guard on any lower you want, so don't let that be your end deciding factor.

I would second that recommendation.

[1Shot]

Embarassed to say that I have had 3 or 4 SD uppers in my hands and did not notice they did not have M4 cuts. I guess that would be kind of a deal breaker there. Same if they are not making the integral trigger guard. I know you can put a RR or Magpul but I don't really want to go that way. Just looks cheap on a billet part. Never saw the need for the folding TG anyway. I also realize that the billet isn't needed either but have forged ones and want something different.

[Shihan]

Embarassed to say that I have had 3 or 4 SD uppers in my hands and did not notice they did not have M4 cuts. I guess that would be kind of a deal breaker there. Same if they are not making the integral trigger guard. I know you can put a RR or Magpul but I don't really want to go that way. Just looks cheap on a billet part. Never saw the need for the folding TG anyway. I also realize that the billet isn't needed either but have forged ones and want something different.

For a different looking upper buy the Vltor MUR.

[SethB]

Why billet?