So Are We Going To DIscuss Private Chelsea Manning....?

**montanadave** · 08-24-13, 15:51

Originally Posted by Army Chief

What the kid did was wrong, and the fact that he might wish to be something or someone else is completely irreverent.

AC

Freudian slip of the day?

**Army Chief** · 08-24-13, 15:58

Freud? Autocorrect? Who can really say?

I'll correct mine. We'll leave yours. lol

AC

**austinN4** · 08-24-13, 16:00

Originally Posted by T2C

Manning enlisted as a male, did the crime as a male, was convicted as a male and imprisoned as a male. He can serve his 35 year sentence as a male. Our tax dollars should not be spent on hormone treatments or surgery. Once Manning is released from prison, he can spend his own money to do whatever he likes.

Could not have said it better myself, except to add that he did the crime as a male before he was convicted as a male.

**MountainRaven** · 08-24-13, 16:07

Originally Posted by SeriousStudent

You might want to research that. I have seen a very small number of prisoners have their sentences commuted by the convening authority while serving them. I am unfamiliar with any military prisoners receiving an early release for good behavior. When they get a sentence, they serve it. Federal time off for good conduct or good behavior is different than military prison or brig time off. They are complete separate prisons and rules.

I am not sure if this have changed in the last 30-40 years. But back then, bad behavior got you into the brig, and good behavior was expected while there. It was not rewarded with early release.

It may have changed, but a web search I did did not lead me to believe it has.

Any JAG folk that can shed some light on that?

I heard it on NPR on my way home this past week that whoever could get out in eight-and-a-half years with good behavior, IIRC (and it appears that I don't).

"Manning must serve at least one-third of any prison sentence before becoming eligible for parole." Source: The Guardian

Sounds like the person might be able to paroled as early as 2021, assuming his'er sentence is not reduced during the appeals process or (unlikely) s/he is pardoned.

**Eurodriver** · 08-24-13, 18:40

Originally Posted by SteyrAUG

I have not fully recovered and I think this is part of why I have such a tremendous porn collection full of actual, completely normal vaginas.

Links?

**SteyrAUG** · 08-24-13, 18:56

Originally Posted by Eurodriver

Links?

DVDs.

**wake.joe** · 08-24-13, 20:44

Would YOU want to be stuck in a mens prison?

**HES** · 08-24-13, 21:25

Originally Posted by kwelz

I am a big proponent of LGBT rights, everyone on here I have argues with know that.

However I find myself in agreement with this statement. It is not the place of the government to pay for or supplement the surgery. If Manning had already underwent treatment I could see an argument for different housing, etc. But that is not the case here.

My position as well. GID is a real problem. However he has made it this far, he can make till release with counseling. Besides after he gets out he will have "celebrity" status and someone will pony the cash for the surgery post haste. Expect multiple suicide attempts between now and then.

Originally Posted by SteyrAUG

DVDs.

Geesh Grandpa