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    The 3-Gunner's rifle

    I'm curious what it is that the majority seem to be an 18in barrel with a fixed stock and 1-6 scope (and no iron sights).

    Again, just curious how it seems to have come to that basic configuration.

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    Quote Originally Posted by danpass View Post
    I'm curious what it is that the majority seem to be an 18in barrel with a fixed stock and 1-6 scope (and no iron sights).

    Again, just curious how it seems to have come to that basic configuration.

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    Simple. The 18 inch barrel is the shortest barrel that will run with a rifle gas system. A rifle gas system has the softest shooting recoil impulse. You don't need back up irons on a match rifle they are just extra weight. Off set sights are ok and can be helpful on some stages. The 1-4,5,6 scope is the most versatile optic class out there. We shoot from in your face hoser stages out to 500 yards. Take a look at my you tube videos for some three gun matches and you will see what we shoot.
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    Barrel and stock-Recoil impulse, you want it smoooooooth. I have an adjustable stock, but it's an A5.

    No irons-Because if your optic goes down in a stage you can flip up back ups, but you'll already be screwed for time anyway. Not so with off sets, which some guys like, but they're really not intended as back ups anyway for the guys I know that have them.

    1-6---Because it's more better than 1-4.

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    Fixed stock because...well...it's one last thing to have set wrong, and I prefer the A2 length. Also, the fixed stock seems to counter the weight of the 18" barrel pretty well.

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    3 Gun is usually a very accepting sport where we encourage everyone to just run what they have. The experienced shooters are more than willing to give you a hand and answer any questions you may have.

    Hell, just ask Duane Liptak from MagPul(formerly PoliceStore.com). The first year for the Pro/Am 3gun at Rock Castle in Kentucky I was squadded with the Brownells/Sinclair/Police Store crew and Duane damn near won the event running an AK74 and Sagia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by danpass View Post
    I'm curious what it is that the majority seem to be an 18in barrel with a fixed stock and 1-6 scope (and no iron sights).

    Again, just curious how it seems to have come to that basic configuration.

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    danpass, I don't mean to hijack your thread. But along the same lines, why does it seem like most good rifle barrels used in 3 gun (the stainless steel "match" barrels) have a 1 in 8 twist, and not 1 in 7 twist?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Mamma View Post
    danpass, I don't mean to hijack your thread. But along the same lines, why does it seem like most good rifle barrels used in 3 gun (the stainless steel "match" barrels) have a 1 in 8 twist, and not 1 in 7 twist?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alaskapopo View Post
    Simple. The 18 inch barrel is the shortest barrel that will run with a rifle gas system. A rifle gas system has the softest shooting recoil impulse. You don't need back up irons on a match rifle they are just extra weight. Off set sights are ok and can be helpful on some stages. The 1-4,5,6 scope is the most versatile optic class out there. We shoot from in your face hoser stages out to 500 yards. Take a look at my you tube videos for some three gun matches and you will see what we shoot.
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    Fixed stock because...well...it's one last thing to have set wrong, and I prefer the A2 length. Also, the fixed stock seems to counter the weight of the 18" barrel pretty well.

    That pretty much says it all. The funny thing is a 3 gun rifle is really the gun most people should be buying rather than an M4 like the military uses. Hopefully we can educate the consumer and get them out to a match at the same time.

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    It's interesting because I've been planning out an 18in precision build using a PRS stock and then recently saw someone using a PRS stock for their 3-gun rifle ......... so it got me thinking lol. I don't have the PRS but thought it was considered a rather heavy stock, which was not a factor for my precision intent.

    In the meantime I may as well try it out just using my 14.5 (my 20in A2 is my highpower rifle and it weights 13lbs )

    The 14.5 (pinned out)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jesse Tischauser View Post
    The funny thing is a 3 gun rifle is really the gun most people should be buying rather than an M4 like the military uses. Hopefully we can educate the consumer and get them out to a match at the same time.

    Isn't that the truth! I love the look on people's faces when they shoot one of my match guns next to the their M4gery.

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