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    is the military using .300 blackout?

    it seems that 300 blackout is very popular. it gets a lot of attention these days.

    my question is this: does the military currently use 300 blackout? what uppers are being fielded and what is the prospect for major adoption by sof groups?

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    as has been stated many times, the type of units that might be using this are a bit busy to be posting it on an internet forum.
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    Don't expect it to be adopted in any quantity. I was talking to a pretty high speed guy the other day (he uses a Glock 22 at work but it's not that work) and he hadn't even heard of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trinydex View Post
    it seems that 300 blackout is very popular. it gets a lot of attention these days.

    my question is this: does the military currently use 300 blackout? what uppers are being fielded and what is the prospect for major adoption by sof groups?
    I could be mistaken, but I doubt very seriously that anyone within DOD channels (officially or otherwise) is even really aware of what is going on with 300 Blackout, much less authorized to use it. This is effectively an industry-led movement, and a further development of an established Wildcat round that has been embraced largely by private shooters -- not anything the military ever asked for, or was prepared, interested-in or authorized to use themselves.

    There may be guys out there in uniform that are carrying them, of course, but if so, I suspect that we would be talking about small teams of dudes who aren't wearing nametags. More like protection details than the kinds of assets that would be fielding or carrying them in quantity.

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    the reason I asked the question was there seemed to be a disconnect between what is currently fielded and the supposed agenda of the .300 blackout.

    the hk416 is the suppressed SBR of choice. its piston system makes suppressed SBR barreled operation more reliable while maintaining the ergonomics and modularity of the massively adopted m4 platform.

    unless HK makes a .300 blackout hk416... how would this round ever make it into the hands of sof dudes? I don't see it as a possibility that the sof community would move away from the already adopted 416 for suppressed SBR solution. and let's admit it, the .300 blackout is primarily targeted at suppressed SBR use.
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    Quote Originally Posted by trinydex View Post
    the reason I asked the question was there seemed to be a disconnect between what is currently fielded and the supposed agenda of the .300 blackout.

    the hk416 is the suppressed SBR of choice. its piston system makes suppressed SBR barreled operation more reliable while maintaining the ergonomics and modularity of the massively adopted m4 platform.

    unless HK makes a .300 blackout hk416... how would this round ever make it into the hands of sof dudes? I don't see it as a possibility that the sof community would move away from the already adopted 416 for suppressed SBR solution. and let's admit it, the .300 blackout is primarily targeted at suppressed SBR use.
    Keep in mind that the 416 is only used by a very small percentage of SOF.
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    I've heard of a 300BLK 416 and in any case a DI upper from the usual suspects would fit in an HK lower.
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    If one considers for a moment that there are certain weapons in inventories (let's use an MPSD3 as an example) and one wanted to replace that weapon with something that shares the same parts commonality, magazines, manual of arms, etc... then the .300 BLK makes perfect sense. It doesn't mean that it has to be general issue. Also, as I recall late in 2012, early 2013 someone with the DOD purchase several hundred thousands of rounds of .300 BLK ammo. I doubt it was done for shooting competition.



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    Quote Originally Posted by trinydex View Post
    the reason I asked the question was there seemed to be a disconnect between what is currently fielded and the supposed agenda of the .300 blackout.

    the hk416 is the suppressed SBR of choice. its piston system makes suppressed SBR barreled operation more reliable while maintaining the ergonomics and modularity of the massively adopted m4 platform.

    unless HK makes a .300 blackout hk416... how would this round ever make it into the hands of sof dudes? I don't see it as a possibility that the sof community would move away from the already adopted 416 for suppressed SBR solution. and let's admit it, the .300 blackout is primarily targeted at suppressed SBR use.
    Yeah, that is the idea - for 300 BLK to replace the MP7, MP5, and 416.

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    Piston guns do not suppress well, at least from a sound perspective.

    .300BK offer a ton of advantages in certain circles over 5.56mm, and IMHO is a no brainer choice over 9mm or 4.6 in a SMG/PDW style weapon
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