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Thread: M4 Product Improvement Program Forward Rail Assembly Kit progress?

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    Quote Originally Posted by USGuns View Post
    Very nice!

    What's interesting is they appear to now be open to something like Keymod:
    There's really no telling.

    There is also mention of enhanced reliability in the RFI. I wonder what the chances are of a new upper being submitted. It wouldn't surprise me to see a whole upper being submitted.

    Look I have this upper that has everything you want, it also costs about the same as the M4A1 upper plus all those accessories.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sinlessorrow View Post
    There's really no telling.

    There is also mention of enhanced reliability in the RFI. I wonder what the chances are of a new upper being submitted. It wouldn't surprise me to see a whole upper being submitted.

    Look I have this upper that has everything you want, it also costs about the same as the M4A1 upper plus all those accessories.
    I see this as a perfect opportunity to lengthen the gas system with that new upper.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BufordTJustice View Post
    I see this as a perfect opportunity to lengthen the gas system with that new upper.
    Honeslty I wouldn't be opposed to a middy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sinlessorrow View Post
    There's really no telling.

    There is also mention of enhanced reliability in the RFI. I wonder what the chances are of a new upper being submitted. It wouldn't surprise me to see a whole upper being submitted.

    Look I have this upper that has everything you want, it also costs about the same as the M4A1 upper plus all those accessories.
    Their would be 0 chance, they are trying to pass this through appropriations not as an upgrade but rather a maintenance choice. The cost in replacing all the uppers would never fly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sinlessorrow View Post
    Honeslty I wouldn't be opposed to a middy.
    Especially not with M855A1. It would run bone dry with an H3 buffer on that mess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Digital_Damage View Post
    Their would be 0 chance, they are trying to pass this through appropriations not as an upgrade but rather a maintenance choice. The cost in replacing all the uppers would never fly.
    That makes sense. I've often heard modern rails would actually cost less than the KAC RIS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sinlessorrow View Post
    ... I wonder what the chances are of a new upper being submitted. ...
    Anything is possible I suppose, but in the solicitation itself it says:
    " The M4A1+ components will seamlessly integrate with the current M4A1 Carbine (to include but not limited to the barrel, gas tube, upper receiver, bolt and bolt carrier) "
    Sounds like those are the minimum current components they want to retain?

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    I would love to see a middy system, along with a new forend. Preferably something lighter than the RIS II, but it would still need to be strong enough.
    I feel like swapping to keymod or m-lok wouldn't fly with the army though, given their current inventory of 1913 accessories and that they'd have to purchase a heck of a lot of rail sections.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SilverCat View Post
    ... I feel like swapping to keymod or m-lok wouldn't fly with the army though, given their current inventory of 1913 accessories and that they'd have to purchase a heck of a lot of rail sections.
    From the solicitation, it seems like that is what they are asking for?
    "Mounting surfaces: The improved extended forward rails shall have sufficient removable mounting surfaces of varying lengths (e.g. 3 quote mark , 5 quote mark , 7 quote mark ) to allow selective, simultaneous mounting of standard U.S. military accessories (e.g., lasers, illuminators, slings, bipods, vertical grips/grip-pods, etc.). "

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