Magpul M-LOK

[samuse]

What do you mean?

I'm able to grasp a 1913 spec handguard without undue pain, stress, strain, injury, or fatigue... So I don't have to subject myself to all the ridulous antics of trying mount stuff to a handguard with no rails. Or mount rails to a handguard with no rails to mount something to the rail, or find covers to mount to the hanguard with no rails that that were eliminated so they could be used without covers.

[markm]

I'm able to grasp a 1913 spec handguard without undue pain, stress, strain, injury, or fatigue... So I don't have to subject myself to all the ridulous antics of trying mount stuff to a handguard with no rails. Or mount rails to a handguard with no rails to mount something to the rail, or find covers to mount to the hanguard with no rails that that were eliminated so they could be used without covers.

It strikes me that all of Geissele's rails, the KMR, and the M-LOK rail already accomplish all of these things. The only variable here is the attachment system.

[SPQR476]

It wasn't just designed for polymer. That was a primary consideration, and was what started us down this path, but it's a LOT faster and easier to manufacture and QC in metal, it doesn't leave .020" edges, the nuts are easy to make, and it's crazy strong, among other benefits. We didn't just test keymod vs M-LOK in polymer. Everything we did in polymer, we did in metal.

Starting tomorrow at NRA, we'll release the continuously growing list of metal hand guard and accessory manufacturers who have committed to making M-LOK products, and it's not a short list. Geissele Automatics was onboard first and we used the SMR in testing, but we started the industry release a few days prior to the public release, and a lot of great manufacturers were sold on the system immediately after seeing it. There will be both metal and polymer direct-mount accessories available very soon, from multiple sources.

To me... making a design consideration for what will work on the friggin plastic MOE hand guard is cuckoo. I know Magpul's roots are in the plastic injection world, but the MOE hand guard just strikes me as an economy rail for casual users.

I know the lower cost stuff will sell faster to the masses though... so I guess Magpul knows where they're going with the approach.

[markm]

Sounds good. It will be interesting to see for sure.

[eodinert]

Give it a week.

Do you know something we don't know?

No, something that everyone here should know. Magpul is one of a few companies big enough to move the entire industry. The industry just found a new direction to go. Everybody should either be heading that direction, or better be so kick ass they can swim upstream. Alone.

There will never be a thread titled 'Where are all the M-lok accessories?' after this rolls out.

[justin_247]

It wasn't just designed for polymer. That was a primary consideration, and was what started us down this path, but it's a LOT faster and easier to manufacture and QC in metal, it doesn't leave .020" edges, the nuts are easy to make, and it's crazy strong, among other benefits. We didn't just test keymod vs M-LOK in polymer. Everything we did in polymer, we did in metal.

Starting tomorrow at NRA, we'll release the continuously growing list of metal hand guard and accessory manufacturers who have committed to making M-LOK products, and it's not a short list. Geissele Automatics was onboard first and we used the SMR in testing, but we started the industry release a few days prior to the public release, and a lot of great manufacturers were sold on the system immediately after seeing it. There will be both metal and polymer direct-mount accessories available very soon, from multiple sources.

When MagPul first released its polymer magazines, you published videos online of various stress tests of the PMAGs vs. aluminum GI mags. This helped sell the concept to skeptics.

Why don't you do the same with this? You discussed a shake test vs. the KeyMod in your technical guide, for example. How about a video comparing the results?

Quite frankly, I'm a bit skeptical here. I liked the KeyMod concept, but I can't say I like it now that we're beginning new standardization wars. This does nothing but further complicate the platform and add confusion to consumers.

[tonyxcom]

If the conical head bolts used with km are problematic for polymers, what is stopping anyone from just using button head screws?

[GH41]

You would have a tough time tightening the button head cap screws. GH

[tonyxcom]

Why? Shouldn't that side of the accessory be oblivious to the other as long as you design for the screw/bolt you are using?

[Stickman]

When MagPul first released its polymer magazines, you published videos online of various stress tests of the PMAGs vs. aluminum GI mags.

The videos were put out much later, they were not part of the release of the Gen 1 PMAGs. That isn't how I remember it at all.