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    CNN reports Suppressor sales are up.

    CNN Money reported that suppressor sells are up. All I can say is "No Sh*t". Seems we gun owners have grown tired of buying guns so now we are investing in accessories. Now someone notify the ATF. We need more form processors at the agency. Just tell your local Dem. that we are growing the gov't and it will happen.

    " The civilian market for silencers soared 37% in 2013, when the total number shot up to nearly a half a million, according to the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives registry. That's compared to 360,000 in 2012 and 285,000 in 2011.

    Silencers are so popular that there's a nine-month wait to have a registration approved by the ATF, according to Ben Shim, a certified firearms instructor and gun industry analyst with CRT Capital Group in Stamford, Conn."

    http://money.cnn.com/2014/04/22/news...news_companies

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    Sad that the reality is the popularity isn't what caused the 9 month wait...the wait should've never gotten up to a third of that.

    If everyone could use EForms, and all examiners were trained, it would go much quicker.

    Of course, I think we all agree the same 20 min process for a "normal" firearm is all that should be required.

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    Suppressors should be an unregulated accessory, not a tax stamp item. Even a Fed judge said that recently.


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    And I like how even the most easily fact-checkable items aren't correct. Wouldn't take 2 minutes to figure out the Harvester is not the least expensive suppressor SiCo offers.

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    If suppressors were taken off the NFA and sold as normal, that would probably create a lot of jobs making them, wouldn't you say?
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    Quote Originally Posted by yellowfin View Post
    If suppressors were taken off the NFA and sold as normal, that would probably create a lot of jobs making them, wouldn't you say?
    Shit.... Walmart would have them for $399 and there'd be a minor economic boom.
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    Quote Originally Posted by yellowfin View Post
    If suppressors were taken off the NFA and sold as normal, that would probably create a lot of jobs making them, wouldn't you say?
    Yes, but those would be evil jobs we don't want. We want more service jobs don't you know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DragonDoc View Post
    CNN Money reported that suppressor sells are up. All I can say is "No Sh*t". Seems we gun owners have grown tired of buying guns so now we are investing in accessories. Now someone notify the ATF. We need more form processors at the agency. Just tell your local Dem. that we are growing the gov't and it will happen." The civilian market for silencers soared 37% in 2013, when the total number shot up to nearly a half a million, according to the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives registry. That's compared to 360,000 in 2012 and 285,000 in 2011.

    Silencers are so popular that there's a nine-month wait to have a registration approved by the ATF, according to Ben Shim, a certified firearms instructor and gun industry analyst with CRT Capital Group in Stamford, Conn."

    http://money.cnn.com/2014/04/22/news...news_companies

    You were right. ATF letter pasted below.

    Dear Industry Colleague:

    As a result of recent changes in state laws concerning certain National Firearms Act (NFA) firearms and devices and other factors, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) has experienced an exponential increase in NFA applications in recent years and months. For example, in fiscal year 2005, while ATF processed nearly 41,600 NFA applications, by 2013 that number had skyrocketed by more than 380 percent to more than 199,900 applications. The increase is significant because of the volume as well as the short period of time in which applications have spiked.

    To expedite processing, in 2013, after more than a year of development, ATF launched its “eForms” to provide a tool for more efficient filing of ATF firearms forms. When ATF implemented the eForms system, paper NFA Tax-Paid applications took 9 months to process, while eForms reduced processing time to within 100 days. After a year of successful implementation, in January 2014, ATF attended the annual Shooting, Hunting, Outdoor Trade Show (SHOT Show) to spread the word about eForms and the system’s efficient processing of applications. Improvements noted in the eForms system include the following:

    • form submission and payment processing time reduced to approximately 5 minutes from 3-4 business days;
    • elimination of 8 weeks of data entry processing backlog;
    • elimination of an estimated 30 days processing time due to errant data entry.

    With these statistics in mind and based on the feedback from industry, the eForms initiative has clearly addressed a long overdue industry need. As a result, the number of registered users has grown from 673 in 2013 to more than 10,000 today. In fact, the number of eForms submitted has exceeded 50,000, with the most significant volume seen in Form 3 and Form 4 applications. Since January 2014, approximately 50 percent of NFA applications have been submitted via eForms. This surge in demand has created the need to temporarily scale back eForms submissions while the system is enhanced to handle greater capacity in the future.

    To accommodate this substantial increase in application volume, ATF must enhance the eForms initiative to ensure that we can meet the industry’s needs as the volume of applications continues to exceed growth expectations. Our goal is to decrease processing times and continue to enhance NFA availability without impact from significant application spikes or volume increases as seen during the last few years.

    -2-
    To accomplish this goal, ATF will take aggressive steps immediately regarding eForms and existing
    paper application processes. Measures already taken include the following:

    • ATF has surged staffing availability to seven days per week to process both eForms and paper
    applications. As a result, ATF has already reduced the backlog of applications from more than
    80,000 to 73,700, an almost 8 percent reduction in the total backlog since March 20, 2014.
    Monthly processing volume has increased from 17,200 to 23,600 per month due to the surge,
    representing a 37 percent increase in form processing.
    • ATF is immediately hiring 15 additional staff to assist in processing NFA applications. In
    addition, another 15 current staff members are cross-training to assist with NFA application
    processing.
    • Staff from across ATF have been recruited to assist in backlog processing.
    • ATF has prioritized Form 3 and Form 4 paper application processing, as appropriate, while we
    are bolstering eForms capabilities. This action will ensure that the highest volume of pending
    applications is given higher priority and that industry needs are met.
    • ATF has engaged world-class private sector companies to assist in enhancing eForms capacity
    and functionality to provide industry with the most efficient service possible.
    • ATF will limit routine maintenance and processing within the eForms system to one day each
    week, which will allow registered industry users to have the full eForms system capacity
    available during other days. Each Wednesday, a day selected based on use patterns and with the
    input of our customers, ATF will close the system for routine maintenance and processing.
    Application processing will continue outside of the system on all weekdays, but ATF will avoid
    routine maintenance and processing within the eForms system on other days to ensure that
    eForms remains available to our customers.

    • This week, eForms will once again be available initially for the processing of Form 6 and Form
    6A. As capacity is enhanced over the next several weeks, eForms will then continue to accept
    Forms 1, 2, 5, 9, 5300.11 and 10. All users may continue to submit paper forms throughout this
    process, and ATF will continue to surge and prioritize to ensure that this enhancement process
    does not impede commerce. Ultimately, our largest volume of requests, Form 3 and Form 4, will
    return to the new and improved eForms, which we expect to accomplish in the short term.

    • ATF will continue to monitor application processing timelines on a weekly basis to ensure that
    progress is being made in the reduction of the backlog. At the same time, ATF will enhance the
    eForms system in ways that may avoid backlogs in the future, despite the spikes and volume
    increases. As additional enhancements or surge steps become apparent, we will adapt our plans
    to address those needs.

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    ATF and industry have benefitted from the eForms and ATF remains fully committed to its success and to the reduction of the backlog in paper and eForms applications. The steps outlined above reflect ATF’s commitments, and we will ensure that our industry colleagues remain informed of our progress and have the opportunity to provide input on eForms enhancements.
    We offer our sincere thanks to the eForms user community for your patience and support of the eForms system as these enhancements are completed.
    Sincerely,
    Marvin G. Richardson
    Deputy Assistant Director
    ATF Enforcement Programs and Services

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    Quote Originally Posted by markm View Post
    Shit.... Walmart would have them for $399 and there'd be a minor economic boom.
    Lets also not forget the peripherals that go with the suppressors as well. Threaded barrels, compatible flashhiders, covers, cleaning items, ect, ect. And the ones that aren't user serviceable there would be quite the service industry in cleaning the bastards too. And if they were no longer controlled items lets also not forget the fakes that would be floating around too(Not trying to be negative, just realistic.) Would be quite a bit of money to be made in all.

    Perhaps a push for deregulating only long gun suppressors as a start, for safety and protection of the hearing of hunters of course along with decrease of noise pollution. Small steps and bites. If the libtards can move as such no reason we can't either.
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