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    Question Ideas for Timer and Rifle Dry Fire

    I tried searching for "Timer-related" post and didn't quite find what I was looking for
    Timer Search
    Dry-Fire Drills and Timers

    I'm trying to duplicate (or is it "replicate"?) some VTAC drills (i.e. 9-Hole Barricade, Triple Threat Rifle Drill, etc) using a NextLevel SIRT AR-bolt in my basement.
    Currently, I set my android phone or iPad's timer apps to 10-15 seconds when doing some VTAC drills.

    I'm curious if, besides these form of timers, are there other means to time yourself performing dry-fire drills? From what I gather, timers work based on the decibel produced by the shots.
    At 40-yrs-young, I'm not spry enough to quickly reach for the timer.

    Apologies if these has been discussed before. Thank you in advance

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    I spend a lot of time on the Predator Tactical dry fire page. It gives you par times, scalable targets etc.

    For the drill you are dry firing, you may look at video and a count down timer. Then you can see where you are inefficient.

    Have you fired the drills live to get your baseline times with good accuracy?
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    I'll have to look up for that website.

    Unfortunate, no live fire. No range that allows those kinds of drills.

    I'm thinking of just keeping up the 10-15 seconds drills, up to the point of making mistakes. Then, start doing just 10 seconds.

    Another, idea tossed my direction. Record myself with the iPad. And watch the timeline. Plus I can see my mistakes.

    I should disclose. I managed to make up to 6 holes in my barricade when I got distracted with another project.

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    Those drills are designed to work specific skill sets.

    How are your presentation times and things like that? It only takes a few runs on those drills to learn them then it goes back to fundamentals and running the gun. So dry fire in those areas will be easier to manage and more productive.
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    I need to work on presentations.
    Right now my tendinitis on support arm is not helping.

    I did maybe 10 minutes on experimenting on doing VTAC's El Presidente. Started with 15 seconds. Hitting the timer, spin/turn to face target, engage the targets, change mag, engage target...I started around approx 10 seconds.
    As I found ways to get timer closer from my starting position, I decreased the timer. Eventually placing the timer on the step of an A-Frame ladder.
    My experiments revealed my weakness on sitting the magazine into the magazine well. I tend to fumble.
    I have to learn a better grip.

    I progress from dropping mags on a bare floor to a basket with a pillow. No sense damaging a perfectly good magazine.

    To simulate the bolt locking to the rear, I substituted switching to Safe. So after the reload, I simulate the bolt going forward by switching back to Fire.

    I'll further experiment by moving back far away from the target.

    I'll have to experiment with Surefire's app and see if there is way to set the timer to Start randomly, and give me only 7-10 seconds of drill time. May have to contact the app developer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by U.S.Cavalryman View Post
    I spend a lot of time on the Predator Tactical dry fire page. It gives you par times, scalable targets etc.

    For the drill you are dry firing, you may look at video and a count down timer. Then you can see where you are inefficient.

    Have you fired the drills live to get your baseline times with good accuracy?
    Very cool page, thanks for sharing!

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    On the Iphone I used SureFire's app. It does have random. Once I went DROID I use the IPSC Shot timer.

    BTL BRN, glad you like that page.

    I just got the Rifle TACOST deck from Trident Concepts. It has a full suit of Dry Fire Drill that break the monotony and develop a good skill set.
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    Quote Originally Posted by U.S.Cavalryman View Post
    On the Iphone I used SureFire's app. It does have random. Once I went DROID I use the IPSC Shot timer.
    Sir, may I send a PM?

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    Absolutley.
    Ash Hess

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    Quote Originally Posted by U.S.Cavalryman View Post
    On the Iphone I used SureFire's app. It does have random. Once I went DROID I use the IPSC Shot timer.

    BTL BRN, glad you like that page.

    I just got the Rifle TACOST deck from Trident Concepts. It has a full suit of Dry Fire Drill that break the monotony and develop a good skill set.
    On my short list, I have his pistol training set and have benefitted quite a bit from it so far!

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