Interesting article by Army SOF on MK18 use

[justin_247]

http://www.defensereview.com/tactica...sover-part-ii/

Very interesting read. It basically covers the modern warfighter's trend toward shorter barrels, slicker hand guards and suppressors. After rereading a the benefits of a 10.5 inch barrel, the DT MDR-C is looking even more appealing.

David Crane is a joke. I would take everything he says with a serious grain of salt, since he's basically along the same lines as "Nut'n Fancy." For years he was hawking FERFRANS' weapons as the solution to all of the supposed M-4 woes.

Even his own bio is B.S. Supposedly, his site is "the authoritative source of news and information" on military small arms, according to him.

[Nocalsocal]

David Crane didn't author the article he only posted it. It was written by Jeff Gurwitch a supposed deployed SF.

[justin_247]

David Crane didn't author the article he only posted it. It was written by Jeff Gurwitch a supposed deployed SF.

I see. My bad.

Although my criticism of David Crane still stands.

[SOW_0331]

And this guy is on an ODA? What the hell is his billet?

It's interesting that he chose to impale himself on the collective dicks of all his favorite manufacturers rather than focus on the bigger picture or the tactics. I'm all about good training and having the best equipment for the job, but there aren't a lot of ways to justify that much focus on what should be a very small part of his job. But who am I to judge.

Some of what the author used to justify his issues with certain gear items sound like the kind of stupid shit you hear at a gun show.

[KCBRUIN]

Well, the response to the article makes me apprehensive about trusting his suppressor claims. Any lefties that can comment about current production suppressors and gas blow back?

[ClearedHot]

The drop #'s alone do not tell the tale of massive lose of efficacy on targets, but posting RemV/RemE would be to much hassle. When you start having poor effects by defacto throwing 22magnums.. doesn't make sense.
100m zero
14.5" m855 200m-1.6", 300-5", 400-8" , 500- 13", 600-18", 700-25", 800-32", 900-42",1000-52"
10" m855 62gr 200m-2", 300-6", 400m-10", 500-16", 600-23", 700-31", 800-41", 900-52", 1000-65"

14.5" 77gr 200m-.6mil/2", 300-1.5/6", 400-2.7/10", 500-4.0/15", 600-5.6/20", 700-7.5/27", 800-9.6/35", 900-12.2/44", 1000-15.2/55"
10.3" 77gr 200m- .8mil/3", 300-2.0/7", 400-3.4/12", 500-5/18", 600-7.0/25", 700-9.3/34", 800-12.0/43", 900-15.2/55", 1000-18.7/68"
drops from actual crony data with a nominal 4k elevation

Solid info. Is Mk262 still the go to ammo for the 10" barrels or has the Brown Tip stuff replaced it?

[StevieJ309]

The author is a member on TOS. Maybe he'll chime in here.

[Tacti-square]

The author is a member on TOS. Maybe he'll chime in here.

Would you mind directing him here if you haven't already done so? I'd be curious to hear his responses.

[StevieJ309]

Would you mind directing him here if you haven't already done so? I'd be curious to hear his responses.

I sent him an IM after I posted that.

[Alpha-17]

Interesting article. I followed the link to the "Part I" article as well, and it was an interesting read. I have several differences of opinion, but generally, to each their own.

That said, this line had me going "what the f@ck?"

The rifle is seen more as a personal defense weapon (PDW) than as a primary tool to engage the enemy.

I'll admit, I'm not a SF-cool guy, just a lowly infantryman, but I've never heard that theory put out by anybody... well, besides POGs and the like. Maybe SF-land is way different, but in my world, even with Humvees, Bradleys, Abrams, MRAPs, and air support, the rifle/carbine is always your primary weapon. Guess that's the difference between the Grunts and the cool guys.