ATPIAL-C

[Sparky5019]

FINALLY! Thoughts?


http://tnvc.com/shop/l3-insight-atpi...ass1-ir-laser/

[GTF425]

After jumping through hoops to find a DBAL-A2, this is a MUCH better alternative to paying out the ass for a PEQ-15 or A2 on the civilian market.

Reasonably priced, same housing/controls as the 15, and full factory support in the case it goes tits up. I'm building another clone of my work rifle and will definitely be picking one of these up to put on it.

This is a great step forward for civilian night vision owners.

[Failure2Stop]

Great...
Now I have to figure out how to raise $1200...

[Sparky5019]

After jumping through hoops to find a DBAL-A2, this is a MUCH better alternative to paying out the ass for a PEQ-15 or A2 on the civilian market.

Reasonably priced, same housing/controls as the 15, and full factory support in the case it goes tits up. I'm building another clone of my work rifle and will definitely be picking one of these up to put on it.

This is a great step forward for civilian night vision owners.

I see your point but I just had to return a BRAND NEW DBAL-I2 for failure. Besides, I like the way it sits low on the rail and there's little to no gap under the mount to get your fingers/thumb caught in. It also has an IR illuminator which the LDI does not have.

[Sparky5019]

Great...
Now I have to figure out how to raise $1200...

Exactly!

[ptmccain]

$1200.....

Hmmm.....a few cases of ammo?

I'll ask a stupid question:

Why SO expensive?

Is it because: a) paying for the technology; b) relatively low volume of sales for the company.

Low demand, higher price. Macroeconomics 101?

[GTF425]

Paul,

$1,200 for a durable IR/Vis laser with an illuminator is pretty damn affordable. I'm happily placing my pre-order right now.

If you don't own night vision, I could see why this wouldn't be worthwhile or met with skepticism. But if you're serious about investing in night shooting, this is a much better alternative to the DBAL-D2 or a second hand PEQ-15/15A.

[ptmccain]

I've learned to never say never to anything having to do with firearms, so .....

I'm sorely tempted to ring in my CC information to get one.

[GTF425]

I see your point but I just had to return a BRAND NEW DBAL-I2 for failure. Besides, I like the way it sits low on the rail and there's little to no gap under the mount to get your fingers/thumb caught in. It also has an IR illuminator which the LDI does not have.

I don't know if my original post was just poorly written, but I agree with you. I think this is a superior product to the DBAL in nearly every way (not the biggest fan of the mount on the PEQ-15, but it works). I do think the QD lever on my DBAL-A2 is both easier to mount/dismount, but it's a very solid mount altogether. I've seen more than a few PEQs crack at the lips of the polymer around the mount and also seen a few crack because of over tightening the screw. Regardless, I'm very excited for these to hit the market.

The factory warranty on this is going to make it a great choice for anyone looking into an IR laser. Instead of having to risk getting a stolen MIL/LEO PEQ or having it show up broken/breaking during use, we have a legit, factory Insight supported PEQ. The DBAL was a great innovation and brought Class 1 lasers to the mainstream, but as you personally know, they aren't very tough and there are more than a few members here and on LF who have sent theirs back for repairs.

Like I said, I'm happy to see Insight selling these and I'm looking forward to getting my hands on one when I get back to the states.

[TehLlama]

I'd still really like to have one, but all this offers over a DBAL-I2 for me personally is being an Insight offering, and having an IR illuminator. For that cost delta, I can outfit two Surefire WML's with vampire heads (since I already run ludicrously tall optic mounts to clear IR-NV systems), and until I need something somewhat more Marine-proof (which the PEQ15 remarkably enough seemed to be for most - that in itself is one hell of an accomplishment) I'll be happy to snap up the extra used DBAL's that will crop up as a result of the APTIAL being a civilian offering.