White House Security Breach

[SOW_0331]

Not really that alarming or surprising.

First (no offense to the members here working the agency) I've noticed a trend in USSS ops and behavior. The teams I've worked with in the past for high profile details (POTUS, frmr POTUS, etc) have been bloated and tied down with administrative boot licking and red tape. Low turnover of legacy agents who are no longer fit for field work, equal opportunity nonsense (pregnant and fat girls), and a dicked up mentality. Instead of learning the concept of moving a P through an area or securing a box for him/them, it always seemed the USSS was much more interested in total authority. Why walk down the street with him in the diamond when you can just force the street to be shut down and evacuated. We were doing more fluid movement with our P alongside him with 6 dudes who knew what the fuvk they were doing, watching 100 suits lose their shit when the plan changed was telling. Much like firearms training, you can teach anyone to perform certain tasks and drills, you can't teach the mindset. As soon as you see something you haven't drilled or rehearsed a million times, chances are without an understanding of the root concept, you'll fall apart.

Also, with such broad sweeping total authority, it always gets abused. They're creating more conflict and chances for disaster by stopping and searching every vehicle in his projected route, people who had no idea when they got on the road he would cross their path. It's much easier to keep a low profile and do your job right. I can't speak on the Uniformed Division or the House guys, but I imagine they put the better guys in the field than the ones left to housesitting duties. Less than thrilled with their performance in general. If you take above average guys and throw a special mission, huge budget, and special treatment at them, you'll get less than average results. Like that group in the Army...

Remember what JFK said; "The only thing an assassin needs to be successful is the willingness to trade his life for the President's". Like gun free zones or nanny state gun laws, you aren't going to be able to stop a determined attacker from ANY purpose unless you're poised for direct interdiction. Maybe if CCW was allowed out on the street, someone would have stopped him halfway up the fence. But it was probably his PTSD that's the issue, not poor performance from those special guys.

[SteyrAUG]

The President is a joke, his security might as well be as incompetent.

I especially loved the part on the news where the chick who looks like a freaking bartender was making excuses that the SS was caught off guard because they were focused on the President departing elsewhere.

What kind of McDonalds excuse is that?!? I could put together a security detail of "gun store" commandos in their late 40s who are capable of watching both sides of a property at the same time. Pisses me off to think that people are actually being paid for that level of incompetence. But I'm sure they were all "hand picked" by Obama and his staff.

[jpmuscle]

Not really that alarming or surprising.

Also, with such broad sweeping total authority, it always gets abused. They're creating more conflict and chances for disaster by stopping and searching every vehicle in his projected route, people who had no idea when they got on the road he would cross their path. It's much easier to keep a low profile and do your job right. I can't speak on the Uniformed Division or the House guys, but I imagine they put the better guys in the field than the ones left to housesitting duties. Less than thrilled with their performance in general. If you take above average guys and throw a special mission, huge budget, and special treatment at them, you'll get less than average results. Like that group in the Army...

Remember what JFK said; "The only thing an assassin needs to be successful is the willingness to trade his life for the President's". Like gun free zones or nanny state gun laws, you aren't going to be able to stop a determined attacker from ANY purpose unless you're poised for direct interdiction. Maybe if CCW was allowed out on the street, someone would have stopped him halfway up the fence. But it was probably his PTSD that's the issue, not poor performance from those special guys.

Case in point:

http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthread.php?t=7045033

[Jellybean]

thats what I was thinking? I remember visiting there when I was a kid, there were agents freaking everywhere. I even remember all the dogs that you could see out there. I can't imagine how someone could have gotten all the way from the gate to the door without someone stopping him.

Those darn republican budget cuts....
You know that's coming out of some reporter's mouth sooner or later.

Case in point:

http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthread.php?t=7045033

Wow. All that from a VW forum. The last place I'd expect to hear such treasonous talk...

[Moose-Knuckle]

OMG 800 rounds of ammunition in his truck! Run for the hills!!!

Some friends and I would burn through that in a range trip, snooze . . .

I'm surprised someone hasn't stood on a podium somewhere calling for legislation regulating ammunition over this.

[The_War_Wagon]

The President is a joke, his security might as well be as incompetent... But I'm sure they were all "hand picked" by Obama and his staff.

Al Sharpton-approved affirmative action hires - excuse we MUCH!

And ya' GOTTA love their response - "We're going to start locking the front door."


PRICELESS!

[FromMyColdDeadHand]

The President is a joke, his security might as well be as incompetent.

Please let them be competent AND lucky. If BHO bites it, out side of being killed by the prophet Mohammed himself, it will be blamed on white guys, the country is racist, blah, di-di, blah-blah. Michele could smother him and they'd blame Rush Limbaugh.

BHO is a progressive schmuck, where's the news in that. If Bush treated minorities with the disdain and contempt that BHO shows the military, they would have impeached him.