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    Precision Armament EFAB first impressions

    I just took receipt of the precision armament EFAB enhanced flash arresting muzzle brake.

    The machining is on par with the AFAB, which is exceptional. Will take it to the range tomorrow. More info then.

    http://precisionarmament.com/product...-muzzle-brake/

    Weight on my scale: 3.5oz/ 98 grams

    Last edited by BufordTJustice; 09-29-14 at 21:45.
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    Looking at the pictures on their site, I'm intrigued. Is it supposed to do something significantly from the AFAB? I was thiiiiiiiss close to putting money down on an AFAB or a Griffin flash comp.
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    That looks pretty awesome.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BrigandTwoFour View Post
    Looking at the pictures on their site, I'm intrigued. Is it supposed to do something significantly from the AFAB? I was thiiiiiiiss close to putting money down on an AFAB or a Griffin flash comp.
    I spoke to them over the phone and they stated that it doesn't have an expansion chamber like the AFAB mini, so it should have a very minimal effect on gas system performance/function and cause very little aditional gas system pressure as it is essentially a straight-through design (think a non-baffled, flow-through automobile muffler). Further, its design incorporates divergent gas "nozzles" as opposed to straight holes as in the AFAB mini. The machining operations are quite complex (as best seen in the photographs of the sectioned EFAB on their website) and it is designed to provide flash suppression that is nearly on-par with the A2. We shall see, but the conceptual science seems sound.

    Like the gen-II M4SD-II, it does not have ports on the top or the bottom and, to my eyes, appears symmetrical in that manner. Which could be good for me because I was getting a little muzzle dip with the Lantac DGN556B (though this wouldn't be the case for most guns).
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    Quote Originally Posted by BufordTJustice View Post
    I spoke to them over the phone and they stated that it doesn't have an expansion chamber like the AFAB mini, so it should have a very minimal effect on gas system performance/function and cause very little aditional gas system pressure as it is essentially a straight-through design (think a non-baffled, flow-through automobile muffler). Further, its design incorporates divergent gas "nozzles" as opposed to straight holes as in the AFAB mini. The machining operations are quite complex (as best seen in the photographs of the sectioned EFAB on their website) and it is designed to provide flash suppression that is nearly on-par with the A2. We shall see, but the conceptual science seems sound.

    Like the gen-II M4SD-II, it does not have ports on the top or the bottom and, to my eyes, appears symmetrical in that manner. Which could be good for me because I was getting a little muzzle dip with the Lantac DGN556B (though this wouldn't be the case for most guns).
    did you ask him why he is making a MAMS and TT love child?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Digital_Damage View Post
    did you ask him why he is making a MAMS and TT love child?

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    I didn't. But I'm sure you could. Next question.

    Also, it's not similar to either. I've owned an AFAB mini and have seen and shot the TT and seen in person the MAMS. They are all clearly distinct from eachother in design and execution.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BufordTJustice View Post
    I didn't. But I'm sure you could. Next question.

    Also, it's not similar to either. I've owned an AFAB mini and have seen and shot the TT and seen in person the MAMS. They are all clearly distinct from eachother in design and execution.
    You have got to be joking.... Not similar? That is just nonsense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Digital_Damage View Post
    did you ask him why he is making a MAMS and TT love child?

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    So what is the point of your question? Some implied malfeasance on the part of Precision Armament? Intellectual theft or infringement? I'm sure KAC appreciates your concern.

    Precision Armament is making a muzzle devices that each incorporate multiple functional features. Other devices on the market may share one or two of those features, but the Precision Armament devices are direct knock-offs of nothing.
    To imply that they are copying, stealing, or have no right to do what they are doing is nonsense.

    BTW: Clearly not a TT and MAMS lovechild... that lovechild would retail at over $400.

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    Quote Originally Posted by elephantrider View Post
    So what is the point of your question? Some implied malfeasance on the part of Precision Armament? Intellectual theft or infringement? I'm sure KAC appreciates your concern.

    Precision Armament is making a muzzle devices that each incorporate multiple functional features. Other devices on the market may share one or two of those features, but the Precision Armament devices are direct knock-offs of nothing.
    To imply that they are copying, stealing, or have no right to do what they are doing is nonsense.

    BTW: Clearly not a TT and MAMS lovechild... that lovechild would retail at over $400.
    Are you serious...

    You really approve of someone taking the features of KAC's hard work + RnD money that is required to thoroughly test those features. Just to have someone slap something together something that blurs the lines enough as to not violate IP theft and throw it on the market?

    You are right, it is clearly not worth $400. Not made of inconel, not tested as thoroughly and no real money spent on the fluid dynamics testing (that has already been done by KAC).

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    Some edited close ups.

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