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    S&W 442 Failure (Update - Replacement Rcvd)

    Earlier this summer, I found some unusual wear on the hammer nose bushing of my S&W model 442-2. It started as minor deformation at or about the viewer’s 3:00 position (shooter’s 9:00) in the photo below. As it was causing no issues at the time, I elected to watch it as it progressively increased to what you see pictured.

    In early August, I shot 94 rounds through this 442 during an IDPA match. After the match, I noted all new deformation at 6:00 on the bushing. There also seemed to be a faint crack developing across it, but I was unable to capture it in the photo.

    This gun is serial number DCU####, in service since ~04/2011, and has fired 1,819 rounds to date.

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    Fast response from my S&W LE rep got a call tag to me quickly (8/11) and I shipped the gun to MA. I heard back from the factory on or about 08/27 and learned the gun was not repairable. Staff in MA requested an FFL for shipment of a replacement, which was transmitted with receipt confirmed on 08/29. Noting that the gun was a no-lock 442, a replacement without a lock was specifically requested. Status checks to MA thereafter on 09/08 and 09/22 have gone unanswered.

    As I await that response and replacement, does anyone have any theories on causality? Is it a simple part quality anomaly, or are there other visible indications of a larger issue with this particular frame? Armorer inspection revealed all else to be in spec, with no excess play or other problem. A check of a couple dozen other Js shows no similar wear patterns. That includes a 642 BUG at ~2k rounds (documented), and others with higher counts (reported). I do perceive some greater visible wear compared to some of those others, but that’s subjective.

    All thoughts appreciated.
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    That is a really low round count to have this sort of problem.

    What ammunition were you shooting? Did you notice any pierced primers at any time since you have owned the revolver?
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    Weird. Mine is way past this and looks ok. Metallurgy?? Maybe it was over hardened?
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    No pierced primers. This was a project gun as well as an EDC, so ammo ran the gamut. Here's the basic list.

    CCI Blazer 158 TMJ +P
    Speer 135 GDHP +P
    Black Hills Ammunition 148 HBWC, 158 RNL (.38 LC), 158 SWC, 125 GDHP +P
    Winchester 130 FMJ (USA), 110 STHP
    Corbon 110 DPX, 80gr Glaser
    Federal 130 FMJ RTP
    PMC 132 FMJ
    Magtech 158 LRN
    Ultramax 148 HBWC, 158 SWC
    Herters 158 FMJ
    S&B 158 FMJ
    3D 148 HBWC
    Hornady 110 Critical Defense
    Remington 101 Disintegrator Frang
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    What kind of dryfire frequency has this unit seen?
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    Quote Originally Posted by warpedcamshaft View Post
    What kind of dryfire frequency has this unit seen?
    Quite a bit, but less than many others.
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    I will be interested to see the outcome on this. I've worn out a series of J-frames. Mostly finish wear and they get loose over time (shooting with +P rounds). A brand new Model 36 ($75.00 NIB), a NOS M40 Centennial (pinned grip safety & Tyler grip adapter) and currently a S&W 642 with Crimson Trace grips. Carry has been on ankle (Jack Ass Leather and Alessi), shoulder holster (Bianchi) and pocket holster (Galco & DeSantis). My daughter uses one as a second gun and deep concealment.

    I'll keep high hopes for some outstanding customer service on this one.
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