I have been shooting with some family members, and they are getting better with one exception, well maybe 2.

While working on accuracy we started with 2 inch circles at 3 yards, then 7. The majority of shots 5/6 are within in the circle. When we moved to 6-8 inch circles at 25, things fell apart. Approx 3/6 in the circle, but there is no consistency to the grouping.

Obviously I am not an instructor, but it seems fundamentals are good. I would assume if not, the 7 yard 2 inch groups would not be what they are. The majority of shooting is done with a 4 inch PPQ.

Also, the dry fire speed times seem to be much better than live fire. Although I can't see if they are actually on target with dry fire they claim to have sights on target at trigger pull. There seems to be a hesitation during live fire that is is not present during dry fire. Dry fire seems to be much more relaxed and confident. I am not sure if this is natural when progressing from dry to live fire?