The myth of over lubrication.. wait.. is the LAV back with DD?

[Warp]

You are right, this was part of a TAC TV episode, and posted to Youtube, quite a long time ago. I guess no one saw the original airing/post because this seems to be making minor waves. The whole thing is nothing new and not that big a deal IMO. Is it really that tough to determine if a weapon is properly lubricated?

A LOT of people believe that only a thin coating in key areas should be used, and that 'too much' lube will attract dust/dirt (or allow dust/dirt that hits to stick in greater quantity) thus freezing up the gun.

A lot of those people are current or prior military and/or law enforcement. You can find them pretty much everywhere, and they don't care what LAV or anybody else says, they will even watch this video and discredit it because they didn't poor dust and dirt over the action after covering them in oil, and it was only 10 rounds.

[TXBK]

That's why AR's should be piston-driven. If they were all piston-driven, they wouldn't need lubrication, because they would never get dirty or malfunction to begin with. That is why AK's rule third world countries.

This is the argument that I get from guys that I know with military experience, and are in no way my thoughts. These guys will not go against what someone told them sometime, somewhere back in the day. And it doesn't matter if I tell them different, or show them this video, or the filthy-14 article.

[tylerw02]

Old video. I think this video was from back when Tac TV was on like two years ago.


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[Berserkr556]

That's why AR's should be piston-driven. If they were all piston-driven, they wouldn't need lubrication, because they would never get dirty or malfunction to begin with. That is why AK's rule third world countries.

This is the argument that I get from guys that I know with military experience, and are in no way my thoughts. These guys will not go against what someone told them sometime, somewhere back in the day. And it doesn't matter if I tell them different, or show them this video, or the filthy-14 article.

I run into guys like that all of the time. I always tell them to pick up an AK manual and read the lube section. The Russians and Eastern European Nations who fielded the AK are strict about cleaning and lubing the rifle. The only people who don't clean and lube their AK is third world beasties and stupid Americans.

[NWcityguy2]

A LOT of people believe that only a thin coating in key areas should be used, and that 'too much' lube will attract dust/dirt (or allow dust/dirt that hits to stick in greater quantity) thus freezing up the gun.

A lot of those people are current or prior military and/or law enforcement. You can find them pretty much everywhere, and they don't care what LAV or anybody else says, they will even watch this video and discredit it because they didn't poor dust and dirt over the action after covering them in oil, and it was only 10 rounds.

For starters, the test of submerging a gun in oil then shooting 10 rounds out of it doesn't simulate any real world scenario.

Secondly, for a patrol rifle, there isn't a point to putting on more than a thin film of CLP. Anything more is just going to leak out into your bag. It's not a civilian gun that gets lubed directly before and during shooting. Still though, I'll shoot hundreds of round with a light film of CLP and have no problems.

Thirdly, there is a very real reason they kept those guns away from any dirt while they were dripping wet with oil. Or why the magazines never touched the ground either.

[Warp]

For starters, the test of submerging a gun in oil then shooting 10 rounds out of it doesn't simulate any real world scenario.

Secondly, for a patrol rifle, there isn't a point to putting on more than a thin film of CLP. Anything more is just going to leak out into your bag. It's not a civilian gun that gets lubed directly before and during shooting. Still though, I'll shoot hundreds of round with a light film of CLP and have no problems.

Thirdly, there is a very real reason they kept those guns away from any dirt while they were dripping wet with oil. Or why the magazines never touched the ground either.

Because they would jam if they got dirt or dust on them?

[NWcityguy2]

Not on them, in them.

[joeyjoe]

Anything more is just going to leak out into your bag. It's not a civilian gun that gets lubed directly before and during shooting.

Who cares if some CLP leaks into your bag? As well, the fact that its "not a civilian gun that gets lubed directly before and during shooting" is even more of a reason to apply a generous amount of lubricant to the entire bolt and the rails of the carrier. Really, there is just zero reason not to. Nothing negative could happen, but you may end up in a situation where benefits might be realized. And your rifle will love you. I don't need to reapply lubricant during shooting unless im really whaling on it for some time.

[NWcityguy2]

You're just messing with me, right?

I'll go to the range tomorrow and shoot 400 rounds out of my rifle that I haven't lubed in 2 weeks. My dept. issued me 56 rounds of duty ammo. I'm smart enough not to turn my bag into an oily mess. This is me talking from actual shooting experience.

[tylerw02]

Cops are civilians.

My guns are drenched with oil and get dirty as hell. My mags get dropped in dirt and gravel. Somebody tell my guns they are supposed to be kept away from dirt.


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