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    Sun Devil Billet Upper and Lowers

    So I am in my local gun store today to get my Rem LTR (Pics are coming soon ) and I see they have a Sun Devil Billet Upper and Lower for sale.

    I understand that the billet lowers are better than forged. I am just asking about any experiences you might have with Sun Devil products. I know that they don't have M4 feed ramps. I am thinking about it for a precision AR build.

    Thanks for any input you might have.
    "I have never heard anyone say after a firefight that I wish that I had not taken so much ammo.", ME

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    The lowers are really nice - I have no experience with the uppers.

    I am unsure if billet is "better" than forged.
    Last edited by Jay Cunningham; 06-28-08 at 14:42. Reason: typo

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    I only say that because it looked like a much better product than any of the forged lowers I have seen.
    "I have never heard anyone say after a firefight that I wish that I had not taken so much ammo.", ME

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    I believe the uppers do not have M4 feed ramps (they are A3 uppers)- that's a deal breaker for me....YMMV
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave L. View Post
    I believe the uppers do not have M4 feed ramps (they are A3 uppers)- that's a deal breaker for me....YMMV
    Beat me to it!

    The billet lowers are very nice though. I have one and need another.
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    I know that they don't have M4 feed lips. I am planning it to be a 18" barreled SPR.
    "I have never heard anyone say after a firefight that I wish that I had not taken so much ammo.", ME

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    Unless you are going to run full-auto with a carbine-length gas system and black-follower USGI mags I wouldn't worry too much about it.

    But that's just me.
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    docsherm,


    The ones I've used, built, and played around with have all been of good quality. I've got one of their new uppers with the forward assist waiting to go onto a build right now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Failure2Stop View Post
    Unless you are going to run full-auto with a carbine-length gas system and black-follower USGI mags I wouldn't worry too much about it.

    But that's just me.
    My friend has a M16 with the Kitty Kat 7.5" upper that will dump a 20 round mag in less than 2 seconds.
    I runs fine and super fast....without M4 ramps.
    Let's not tell him.

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    Thanks for the info. I picked up a upper and a lower today. I do like how the lower has the built in nylon set screw which ensures a tight upper to lower fit. I will post some pics when i get my SPR built.

    Now I just have to figure out what barrel, stock, rail, sights, scope, and so forth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by docsherm View Post
    Thanks for the info. I picked up a upper and a lower today. I do like how the lower has the built in nylon set screw which ensures a tight upper to lower fit. I will post some pics when i get my SPR built.

    Now I just have to figure out what barrel, stock, rail, sights, scope, and so forth.
    Doc can I have it when your done
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    Quote Originally Posted by Devil_Dog View Post
    Doc can I have it when your done
    Sure, if you want to pay for it?
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    When are we going to start seeing some pictures?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stickman View Post
    When are we going to start seeing some pictures?

    OK OK, I have the upper and the lower and a rail system. Now I just need all of the "LITTLE" pieces to make it work.

    I am leaning towards a 16" WOA barrel. Any one have any thoughts on them?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stickman View Post
    When are we going to start seeing some pictures?
    I was hoping you would post some ! I can't do your pictures justice as you can see below

    Here is a pic of a Sun Devil, Vltor and a standard upper. I am waiting for my Larue billet for comparison but its B.O. The machine work on the Sun Devil is perfect. Can't find any flaws. I didn't realize the Sun Devil was so beefy until I had them side by side with the other uppers

    The Sund Devil upper is going on a 7.62X39 build which I should have together shortly

    Bought these off Rainier Arms ( awesome service ..highly recommended )










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    Great pics. I did not even think about comparing it to the VLTOR upper. What is the third one in the with the barrel attached? I am thinking of doing a 6.8 build with mine.
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    Great Pics!

    Thanks for posting them trg42!

    Really like how that Sun Devil looks..... bet she doesn't flex lol
    Semper Fi

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    Quote Originally Posted by docsherm View Post
    Great pics. I did not even think about comparing it to the VLTOR upper. What is the third one in the with the barrel attached? I am thinking of doing a 6.8 build with mine.

    The third one is a just a flat top RRA that came with a 458 Socom upper. They blend in a uni brow looking single feed ramp ( picture m4 cut blended into one big honking ramp ) so I couldn't be bothered changing the reciever on that build

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    I visited Dave Beaty at SunDevil Mfg in May to check out his facilities.

    He's got a great production plant churning out product for his customers for example SBR's machine guns for the army and AR's for S&W.

    He gave me a great tour and showed me some cool secret projects he's working on.

    Here's a pic of one of the production areas:




    This is a purple AR I ordered for my wife.
    Actually, it's an example of what I will be getting soon.
    I'll be getting a stripped lower receiver with a built upper.
    He's going to laser etch his own signature into the lower for me too!




    Here's a pic of a titanium finish that is pretty cool:




    Dave is a super nice guy and I used up a lot of his time seeing all the cool machines and how he makes his products starting from a block of aluminum to the finished product.


    Thumbs up for SunDevil!


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    Wow, that is beautiful machine work

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