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Thread: Is There A Better SBR Suppressor Than The Surefire RC...?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteyrAUG View Post
    I have no doubt SF is built like a tank and best in class for military applications.

    But I'm wondering if it is the best suppressor for my needs as a HD weapon. I've been told they are louder than other options which is a bigger consideration than cost. My HALO gives me great suppression and it wasn't very expensive at all, but it's pretty heavy which makes it a less desirable candidate than others.

    I have no problem going with the SF RC if that is indeed the best suppressor for my needs. But I keep hearing about things like the Saker and I'm trying to determine if better options exist. If the RC really is the lightest and quietest option, then that is what I'm going with.

    Would appreciate your thoughts.
    I am in the same boat as you, but will offer what I've found so far if it helps. I'm going to wait until after shot to see if there is anything new released.

    Since you mention the SAKER, it appears to me the SWR Specwar would be worth your consideration, given your stated requirements as it is quieter than the SAKER. SWR generally always do a tremendous job on the level of noise reduction and while I don't know, I would be willing to bet, their can is a tad quieter than the RC which appears is high on your list of considerations. (Basing this on my experience with their excellent Octane 45HD.) Although perhaps not enough for you to notice while your ears are ringing from the super sonic crack.

    The full size SWR can is 1.1" shorter and the same weight as the RC. Conveniently, or not, SF doesn't list db level noise reduction, that I've found, nor do they specify the materials used for the baffle stack, where SWR does list them.

    I'm finding muzzle device compatibility / quality is a consideration, as I don't want a garbage flash suppressor on my rifle(s) when I'm not shooting suppressed and I'd like options should I want to shoot it on other platforms. I really wish BE Meyers would sell their four prong FH with different suppressor mounting options to the public. The AAC stuff is further down my list to investigate......but not out of the running at this point in my decision making process.

    You appear to have a varied arsenal of rifles and surefire has an impressive array of options for compatible flash hiders for a lot of different styles of rifles (and threads) if that matters to you at all.

    Not sure if this helps you much or not........
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    Quote Originally Posted by domestique View Post
    You really need to rank your priorities for us so we can make a recommendation.

    From what you're posting: sound and lightweight are the most important. that would leave a TI can, just know the limitations.
    Weight and level of suppression are what I'm going for, best mix of both. Indoor HD weapon.

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    I went 556-RC because flash suppression, blowback, POI shift, length, weight and durability trump decibel reduction. 5.56 is going to be loud, especially indoors, regardless. For your needs the Saker, maybe even the new Saker K, might be what you're looking for. I'm currently running an AAC Mini4 but it's too short and has a pretty large fireball which makes it a no-go for long term serious use.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SteyrAUG View Post
    I have no doubt SF is built like a tank and best in class for military applications.

    But I'm wondering if it is the best suppressor for my needs as a HD weapon. I've been told they are louder than other options which is a bigger consideration than cost. My HALO gives me great suppression and it wasn't very expensive at all, but it's pretty heavy which makes it a less desirable candidate than others.

    I have no problem going with the SF RC if that is indeed the best suppressor for my needs. But I keep hearing about things like the Saker and I'm trying to determine if better options exist. If the RC really is the lightest and quietest option, then that is what I'm going with.

    Would appreciate your thoughts.
    While the saker is built well, I don't like the multiple mount adapter feature

    This is just more complication in the system and is a feature that I would never use.

    IMHO is it a selling point for a gear nerd.

    If you want to buy a silencerco I would get a specwar. It is a great basic can.

    Also note surefire makes a SB socom in 5.56 for short barrels. Also note the socom series was actually engineered to work with a mk18 as this was chosen by Socom to replace older KAC M4QD cans.

    The SB had an extra thick blast barrel.

    Given that you are using a colt mk18 type barrel I would want something with less back pressure. Thus I would get a surefire.

    10.3 to 11.5 are less forgiving when a silencer is attached in regards to back pressure.

    I would never buy a titanium can for an assault rifle.
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    As I stated in a similar thread this week:

    FWIW, I have the 556 RC on a BCM 11.5.

    It's doable outdoors without ear pro.

    There is no fireball at night, but still a little bit of flash.

    Also, no 'gas to the face'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteyrAUG View Post
    Weight and level of suppression are what I'm going for, best mix of both. Indoor HD weapon.



    Host gun is a Colt 6945 with a 10.3" barrel.
    As long as it's not going to be used for mag dumps I think a ti can is what you should be looking at. (I.e Gemtech trek-t or GMT-556 LE). The new Specwar-k looks interesting to.

    I personally bought a SOCOM556-RC, but poi shift, blowback, and flash were bigger up my list.
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    I'd get a KAC QDC...

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    Quote Originally Posted by N.Franklin View Post
    I'd get a KAC QDC...
    Except the fact that their heavy (MAMS brake IIRC is 4 ounces), hard to find, expensive and not that quiet.

    Edit: the 7.62 QDC would be pretty sweet for a specific project I have on the back burner.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scottryan View Post
    While the saker is built well, I don't like the multiple mount adapter feature

    This is just more complication in the system and is a feature that I would never use.

    IMHO is it a selling point for a gear nerd.
    I don't consider myself a gear nerd by any stretch of the imagination.

    The advantage of the MAAD mounting system (to me) is it offers an option to those of us out here already committed to a different suppressor brand, and thus mounting system. If somebody out there already had a half-dozen builds with 51T mounts, or YHM mounts, or even Specwar mounts...they can now buy a Saker and use it. I'm not stuck with either buying more YHM cans, or ditching the YHM cans and swapping all my mounts, or having to pick and choose which rifle gets which mount/can.

    I started with a YHM LT, and currently have a ULT pending. But, I also have a Saker 762, plus a 556 one pending. All four can swap around on my existing YHM mounts. I ordered my two Sakers with the Y-Mount MAAD module, so I don't even have their standard mount or any of the trifecta brakes or FHs.

    I don't see buying a Saker and several MAAD modules and swapping them around on multiple hosts, but it's nice to be able to mount them on another company's mounts. The only other MAAD module I'd consider is the direct thread, if I ever wanted to suppressed a bolt gun.


    Just though I'd point that out...now back to the SF discussion.

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