Originally Posted by
SPQR476
This is why:
I've seen and heard the doubt about reinforced vs unreinforced feed lips, and I don't want there to be any misconception that we're trying to half measure the reinforced magazine. Believe me, we've tested this. We'll have more videos and such on the way for the Gen M3, but here are two that illustrate what I'm talking about. This is a Bulgy circle 10 on the left, which is, as I've said, a very good mag. Anti-tilt follower, steel on the lock ups, good geometry, etc. on the right is the PMAG AK MOE unreinforced magazine. Both mags are fully loaded with Wolf ammo. The MOE mag was dropped twice from six feet onto concrete to get the crack you see in the photo, only slightly visible from the rear where it's at, and only really noticeable when you pull it apart. Mag holds rounds and feeds 100% like this. The circle 10 mag on the left was dropped once from six feet. The left feed lip is bent to the point that it will not allow a round to be fully inserted to the rear on that side. This mag causes a stoppage every other round...the right side still feeds, the left, not so much. This is pretty consistently what you see. Yes, if the insert hasn't delaminated and raised an edge, and if the supporting polymer isn't cracked, you may be able to bend the reinforced mag back and get it to function to some degree. It will never be as good as it was new. If you're in the middle of it, and you drop your mag from 6 feet somewhow, (twice in the case of the MOE mag) which mag would you rather be faced with putting in your rifle to continue immediately?
While I understand your explanation I really don't plan on dropping any mags on the feed lips while loaded and it is my "non professional" opinion that steel reinforced feed lips will ultimately outlast polymer magazines that don't have them, just as your Gen 3 steel reinforced AK mags will likely outlast your MOE AK magazines given comparable wear and tear.
Maybe I just am still traumatized by those damn Zytel MAC 10 magazines from the 80s.
All that said, I'm excited about the Gen 3 AK mag and plan to buy more than a few as soon as they are available from my supplier. I already have more than enough SHTF AK mags and I doubt I will be subjecting the Gen 3s to anything they can't handle. Gen 3s seem like the perfect "regular use" magazine.
And if you do ever produce a Gen 4 with steel reinforced feed lips, I'll buy a bunch of those as well.
While we are at it I'd just like to say a few things like HK 33 / 93 and MP5 / HK94. I know you guys did G36 mags but you could really own the clone market if you wanted to. At least your magazines would work, unlike those Korean pieces of crap. Given that 33 and MP5 magazines typically sell for $50 or more I think the market is yours for the taking.
Last edited by SteyrAUG; 02-03-15 at 00:31.
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