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Thread: WHAT'S SHIPPING: Glock Model 43, 9x19mm

  1. #11
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    I hated the feel of my G26 (and most other "baby" glocks 29/30/27) but shot it good and felt it pointed good. The 43 just felt like crapola, and pointed even worse....I'm still saving for a g40. It was 499 at dicks.
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    UPDATE

    +121rds today. The youngest shooter is now 11yo and the least experienced of the 12 total. During basic marksmanship exercises he was able to keep all rounds in a 3" circle out to 5 yds, and managed the gun pretty well. While shooting, he had some out of battery light strikes like those reported earlier. I was unable to replicate them even when holding the gun with v-blocks and minimally gripping the gun so I'm going to attribute those to the shooter.

    Picked up several odds and ends for ammo to add to the list in upcoming range sessions.

    Number of shooters: 12
    Cumulative round count: 1,533

    Updated ammo list:

    Ammunition used (26):
    *121rds Black Hills Ammunition 115gr FMJ (BHA brass)
    50rds Black Hills Ammunition 115gr GDHP +P (Starline brass)
    30rds Black Hills Ammunition 115gr TAC-XP +P (Win brass)
    120rds Black Hills Ammunition 115gr TAC-XP +P (BHA brass)
    60rds Black Hills Ammunition 124gr JHP-XTP +P (BHA brass)

    26rds Federal 100gr RHT lead free frangible
    100rds Federal 115 FMJ (aluminum case)
    50rds Federal Champion 115gr FMJ
    50rds Federal 124gr Hydra-Shok
    *150rds Federal 147gr JHP
    50rds Federal 147gr Hydra-Shok
    50rds Speer Lawman 147 TMJ
    62rds American Eagle 115 FMJ
    50rds American Eagle 147 FMJ
    50rds American Eagle 124gr FMJ
    50rds CCI Blazer Brass 115 FMJ

    50rds Corbon 115gr FMJ (Starline brass)
    40rds Corbon 100gr +P Pow’RBall

    62rds PMC Bronze 115 FMJ
    50rds Freedom Munitions 115 FMJ
    50rds Herters-Tula 115 FMJ (steel case)
    50rds Winchester Mk254 Mod 0 Frangible
    46rds Remington 100gr Disintegrator lead free frangible
    *16rds International Cartridge Company 100gr lead free frangible
    50rds Fiocchi 115gr FMJ
    50rds Remington UMC 147 FMJ
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    UPDATE

    +200rds today, adding 18 shooters and two new loads during a demo session of CCW guns. One 14yo girl had the same out of battery light strike discussed earlier, as well as a stovepipe.

    Number of shooters: 30
    Cumulative round count: 1,733

    Updated ammo list:

    Ammunition used (28):
    *221rds Black Hills Ammunition 115gr FMJ (BHA brass)
    50rds Black Hills Ammunition 115gr GDHP +P (Starline brass)
    30rds Black Hills Ammunition 115gr TAC-XP +P (Win brass)
    120rds Black Hills Ammunition 115gr TAC-XP +P (BHA brass)
    60rds Black Hills Ammunition 124gr JHP-XTP +P (BHA brass)

    26rds Federal 100gr RHT lead free frangible
    100rds Federal 115 FMJ (aluminum case)
    50rds Federal Champion 115gr FMJ
    50rds Federal 124gr Hydra-Shok
    *150rds Federal 147gr JHP
    50rds Federal 147gr Hydra-Shok
    50rds Speer Lawman 147 TMJ
    62rds American Eagle 115 FMJ
    50rds American Eagle 147 FMJ
    50rds American Eagle 124gr FMJ
    50rds CCI Blazer Brass 115 FMJ

    50rds Corbon 115gr FMJ (Starline brass)
    40rds Corbon 100gr +P Pow’RBall

    50rds Magtech 115 FMC
    50rds Herters (S&B) 115 FMJ
    62rds PMC Bronze 115 FMJ
    50rds Freedom Munitions 115 FMJ
    50rds Herters-Tula 115 FMJ (steel case)
    50rds Winchester Mk254 Mod 0 Frangible
    46rds Remington 100gr Disintegrator lead free frangible
    *16rds International Cartridge Company 100gr lead free frangible
    50rds Fiocchi 115gr FMJ
    50rds Remington UMC 147 FMJ
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    Great thread Skintop911! Thanks for the info.
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    Great post and thanks for the updates. So it sounds like the pistol has experienced about 10 stoppages between the out of battery light strikes and single stovepipe? The out of battery light strikes are concerning to me...any thoughts on what may be causing these? Any direct correlation between ammo used and experiencing the light strikes?

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    +270rds today. Ran some drills for comparison data to other subcompacts, which I'll get into a postable format and put up later. 100+ rounds of one handed shooting. Despite some struggle with the hard break on the trigger (vs. other Gs), the short OAL helps the gun point and shoot easily SHO and WHO. Also did some low light and flashlight work. Muzzle flash was less than expected. With the short, narrow slide I felt like I had to hunt a bit more for the sight picture I wanted. Muzzle flash was less than expected. No new shooters, no malfunctions. With the session today, we've now reached the 2k milestone.

    Number of shooters: 30
    Cumulative round count: 2,003

    Updated ammo list:

    Ammunition used (28):
    *404rds Black Hills Ammunition 115gr FMJ (BHA brass)
    50rds Black Hills Ammunition 115gr GDHP +P (Starline brass)
    30rds Black Hills Ammunition 115gr TAC-XP +P (Win brass)
    120rds Black Hills Ammunition 115gr TAC-XP +P (BHA brass)
    60rds Black Hills Ammunition 124gr JHP-XTP +P (BHA brass)

    26rds Federal 100gr RHT lead free frangible
    100rds Federal 115 FMJ (aluminum case)
    50rds Federal Champion 115gr FMJ
    50rds Federal 124gr Hydra-Shok
    *150rds Federal 147gr JHP
    50rds Federal 147gr Hydra-Shok
    50rds Speer Lawman 147 TMJ
    62rds American Eagle 115 FMJ
    50rds American Eagle 147 FMJ
    50rds American Eagle 124gr FMJ
    50rds CCI Blazer Brass 115 FMJ

    100rds Corbon 115gr FMJ (Starline brass)
    40rds Corbon 100gr +P Pow’RBall

    50rds Magtech 115 FMC
    50rds Herters (S&B) 115 FMJ
    62rds PMC Bronze 115 FMJ
    87rds Freedom Munitions 115 FMJ
    50rds Herters-Tula 115 FMJ (steel case)
    50rds Winchester Mk254 Mod 0 Frangible
    46rds Remington 100gr Disintegrator lead free frangible
    *16rds International Cartridge Company 100gr lead free frangible
    50rds Fiocchi 115gr FMJ
    50rds Remington UMC 147 FMJ
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    Quote Originally Posted by calviroman View Post
    Great post and thanks for the updates. So it sounds like the pistol has experienced about 10 stoppages between the out of battery light strikes and single stovepipe? The out of battery light strikes are concerning to me...any thoughts on what may be causing these? Any direct correlation between ammo used and experiencing the light strikes?
    Looking at the variables...

    There have been 30 total shooters. Four experienced an out of battery light strike or stovepipe. They were an 11yo male novice, a 14yo female new shooter, a ~20yo female with limited experience, and an experienced LEO, Glock shooter, and LEFI.

    28 total loads have been used to date. Three loads, from three different manufacturers, were involved in the malfunctions. They were BHA 115 FMJ (404/2003 total), Federal 147 JHP (150/2003 total), and ICC 100gr green frangible (16/2003 total). The 11yo and 14yo had malfunctions with the same load, BHA 115 FMJ. The 11yo experienced only the out of battery light strikes. The 14yo experienced both the light strike and stovepipe. These were the only shooters to have issues, despite it being the round most fired to date (404, ~20%) and by the most shooters. The 20yo experienced only the light strikes with the Federal 147 JHP, and was the only shooter using that load to have issues. In a later session, she fired it without issue. The LEO experienced only a stovepipe with the ICC, and was the only shooter to fire that load.

    My thoughts: The 11yo was a novice and the 14yo a new shooter. The G43 was new to both of them and the first rounds they fired. While shooting they frequently broke their grip. The 11yo settled into the gun later. The 14yo didn't get a chance to. The 20yo had some more experience but her malfunction also occurred her first session. In a repeat session later with the same ammo, she had no issues. Other shooters used both the BHA and Federal loads without issue. The malfunction with the ICC was predicted, and that load was specifically sought out to help ID a threshold. The 16 rounds fired were the last remaining from a much larger quantity that was wonky in larger, known-good guns.

    Conclusion: Shooter induced.
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    Picked mine up and fired 300 rounds (100 Blazer Brass 115r, 100 Federal Suppressed 124r and 100 Atlanta Arms and Ammo 147r). Had some failures to lock open on last round. 6 from the mag with the extension and one from the flat one. Most were from the light recoiling Fed and Atlanta. Not sure if it should matter but it all occurred while the gun got extremely hot. Also, this did not occur while my wife shot the gun with her considerably smaller hands. I have a very strong suspicion that my thumb was riding the slide lock since my grip and thumbs were forced to shift in a way not consistent with any of my other Glocks. I'm going with shooter induced until i follow up.

    For me the gun was easy to shoot accurately out to 7 yards at speed. From outside of 7 yards accuracy required a lot more effort. This is not a G17 but i don't believe its meant to be. The GSSF match in Jackson next week should be interesting in the mini gun category with this gun. Not a lot of people shooting that category yet.

    Other than that i noted what others have said, that its sharper recoil than a G26 but manageable. Inserting a fresh magazine is sometimes difficult from an angle. It seems to get hung up unless perfectly vertical.

    Gave the gun a very thorough cleaning and prep for FireClean. Also leaving the gun locked open over night. Will try again tomorrow. Ordered the OEM steel front sight and a magazine. Strangely even though i have large hands i found the extension on the magazine a detriment. On the G26 i actually prefer the extension.
    Last edited by PLCedeno; 06-13-15 at 17:54.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PLCedeno View Post
    Picked mine up and fired 300 rounds (100 Blazer Brass 115r, 100 Federal Suppressed 124r and 100 Atlanta Arms and Ammo 147r). Had some failures to lock open on last round. 6 from the mag with the extension and one from the flat one. Most were from the light recoiling Fed and Atlanta. Not sure if it should matter but it all occurred while the gun got extremely hot. Also, this did not occur while my wife shot the gun with her considerably smaller hands. I have a very strong suspicion that my thumb was riding the slide lock since my grip and thumbs were forced to shift in a way not consistent with any of my other Glocks. I'm going with shooter induced until i follow up.
    Riding the slide stop is pretty common with the G42/43.

    Other than that i noted what others have said, that its sharper recoil than a G26 but manageable. Inserting a fresh magazine is sometimes difficult from an angle. It seems to get hung up unless perfectly vertical.
    Description and solution earlier in this thread.

    Strangely even though i have large hands i found the extension on the magazine a detriment.
    I'm finding that to be a common observation.
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    Shot another 200 rounds today. Federal 124r Suppressed. With more careful placement of my thumb i experienced zero issues. After my wife was done with her G19 she asked if we could trade for the last 50 rounds. She said afterwords that she found the gun to be fun with less recoil than she expected. Conversely after 200 rounds through this gun i found the G19 to feel gargantuan in my hands which isn't usually the case as i usually shoot a G17.

    Need to work on the solution Skintop911 mentioned to the magazine insertion issue.

    Will be getting rid of the extension on the one magazine as soon as they become available alone.

    Overall for me it is a reliable pocket gun in a way the G26 can't be due to its width and is a welcome addition to the stable.
    Last edited by PLCedeno; 06-14-15 at 16:23.
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