Making an RRA better?

[Twosons]

I dunno about that. The Springfield Professional is a really good 1911 despite winning the FBI contract.

I wonder how many .gov contracts Colt has

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I dunno about that. The Springfield Professional is a really good 1911 despite winning the FBI contract.

You are right. There are ALWAYS exceptions to the rule. As a general rule though, it is not wise to follow what the FEDERAL Govt buys.


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I wonder how many .gov contracts Colt has

Hard to say. They do hold the TDP though. The other AR manufacturers (less FN) do not.


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[rmecapn]

Durability.

Exactly. There are more than enough reports of what amounts to a slam fire that I won't have one. I've shot them. My gun dealer thinks they're great. They don't offer enough for me to risk the problems and issues surrounding them.

[Twosons]

Hard to say. They do hold the TDP though. The other AR manufacturers (less FN) do not.


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Sabre

http://www.defensereview.com/modules...ticle&sid=1155

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Sabre

http://www.defensereview.com/modules...ticle&sid=1155

They are the new contract award winner, but we will wait and see if the Govt actually orders anything. They also might not get the official TDP.

What will also be interesting is to see if SD upgrades their current weapons to meet a higher spec.


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[rob_s]

Sabres contract is also for M16A3s, not M4s, FWIW.

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Sabres contract is also for M16A3s, not M4s, FWIW.

Right. Generally the way it works is that the company that holds a TDP for certain weapon platform, they do not not share it and will fight to keep it to themselves.

So I think it will be interesting to see if SD actually get's any orders and if they are ever issued the offical TDP.


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[mayonaise]

I've had two RRA TE's. The first one I bought before they were the "new" hot builder. Ken Hackathorn recommended them at that time. I didn't know squat about them but got a good deal. It had a chromo barrel which was the only negative other than the damn thing was a tack driver. I shot 2" groups with the irons and 1" groups with a 4 moa Aimpoint. That gun ran like a damn sewing machine. ZERO malfunctions. I only sold it after the ban was lifted and bought another post ban version to replace it. I've run thousands of rounds through this one and again zero malfunctions.

You can TDP this and that. Spend $1500 on a rifle and sleep better at night. Push comes to shove I know I can fight with my lowly RRA. It's been dropped and thrown 5 yards and never missed a lick, never lost zero (aimpoint or irons). BTW that second one came with the black extractor insert a couple of years ago not a blue one like my first, FWIW. The key staking is an issue to address. I like the two stage trigger group. Works fine for me.

I'm not saying they are the best guns out there or that you should buy one. From my experience they have worked just fine. Any given year there are good and bad production runs by (insert company name here). That's a fact of life.

Part of our training is how to deal with mechanical stoppages. They all stop eventually. Buy the best you can afford and deal with it. Take the steps that ensure higher reliability, such as in Grant's Bushmaster post.

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I've had two RRA TE's. The first one I bought before they were the "new" hot builder. Ken Hackathorn recommended them at that time. I didn't know squat about them but got a good deal. It had a chromo barrel which was the only negative other than the damn thing was a tack driver. I shot 2" groups with the irons and 1" groups with a 4 moa Aimpoint. That gun ran like a damn sewing machine. ZERO malfunctions. I only sold it after the ban was lifted and bought another post ban version to replace it. I've run thousands of rounds through this one and again zero malfunctions.

You can TDP this and that. Spend $1500 on a rifle and sleep better at night. Push comes to shove I know I can fight with my lowly RRA. It's been dropped and thrown 5 yards and never missed a lick, never lost zero (aimpoint or irons). BTW that second one came with the black extractor insert a couple of years ago not a blue one like my first, FWIW. The key staking is an issue to address. I like the two stage trigger group. Works fine for me.

I'm not saying they are the best guns out there or that you should buy one. From my experience they have worked just fine. Any given year there are good and bad production runs by (insert company name here). That's a fact of life.

Part of our training is how to deal with mechanical stoppages. They all stop eventually. Buy the best you can afford and deal with it. Take the steps that ensure higher reliability, such as in Grant's Bushmaster post.

Back in the day, RRA was the new entry level AR to beat. They did a lot things well (better than they do now IMHO). Same goes for BM. At one time, they were pushing out a lot of quality AR's I think.

Most lower tiered AR's run in the $850-$950 range. By my public school math, you can get into an LMT (buying the upper and lower seperate) for around $930. So the question I always have to ask is, why bother with a RRA or BM???


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