Battle tested M16A1 Elisco 653

[Beagle89]

This Carbine was used in the counter insurgency operations in the Southern Islands of the Philippines , I now have the fortunate opportunity to purchase this particular rifle. Can anyone give me pointers to look out for in terms of maintenance ? It has a 16inch Barrel with a 1:12 rifling twist & will come with 9 20rd & 3 30rd magazines along with 1000 rounds of M193 .

[ClassIIIGunsmith]

Upper has different color to lower. Can't be bought in the US unless it is already here. Forward assist is wrong it needs to be a teardrop. Barrel should be a 14.5" because military didn't use a 16". But it should have a RH 1:12 twist. What are the first 2 digits on the lower. I see it being worth about $30-$35 (thousand)as is, only if the lower is a F/A. What trigger is in it and what buffer? Also can't clearly see the flash hider model. Also the only maintenance you might need is gas rings, barrel if the rifling is shot out, and possibly a auto sear(unlikely).

[Renegade04]

Upper and lower colors not matching was not uncommon during the late 1970s and early 1980s Seeing how this was made in the Philippines under the licensing by Colt, it would not be surprising to see some variation from Colt versions. The barrel does appear to be a 14.5" and not a 16". The forward assist is not a real issue. The round forward assist may be what they had readily available. The FH does appear to be an A1. The barrels are most likely made by Colt while the receivers are made in the Philippines. After WWII, Colt set up manufacturers over there with equipment so that they could make their own weapons without Colt having to ship any over there. They began producing 1911s and eventually M16 rifles and carbines. These M16s were all select-fire weapons as they did not have the restrictions we have in the United States for public ownership, but they were costly to own. As was said, if it is in this country and is accompanied with the proper paperwork, there is no reason not to buy it. They are very easy to maintain.

[ClassIIIGunsmith]

Its discoloration should not be that far off from the lowers color. The upper has early 60's color while the lower has early 80's color. My 76 SP1 has the same color between the upper and lower.image.jpgimage.jpg

[Beagle89]

Thanks for the information guys, the carbine is licensed in the Philippines but the serial no. was erased & replaced with a Personal no..
The barrel was replaced with a 16inch because of cycling issues , I've tested it in full auto & fired 100 rounds without
any problems occurring .

Thanks Renegade04 for your insightful reply, it reflected the same history that the owner narrated.
I now feel reassured that I'm buying a good carbine. I own three Sig Sauer
Pistols(P226,SP2022,P250) & this is the first Rifle I'm buying.

[militarymoron]

Beagle - what country are you located in?

[scottryan]

Thanks for the information guys, the carbine is licensed in the Philippines but the serial no. was erased & replaced with a Personal no..
The barrel was replaced with a 16inch because of cycling issues , I've tested it in full auto & fired 100 rounds without
any problems occurring .

Thanks Renegade04 for your insightful reply, it reflected the same history that the owner narrated.
I now feel reassured that I'm buying a good carbine. I own three Sig Sauer
Pistols(P226,SP2022,P250) & this is the first Rifle I'm buying.

That carbine has a 14.5" barrel in the pictures.

Everything on that gun appears to be matching.

[Beagle89]

Its discoloration should not be that far off from the lowers color. The upper has early 60's color while the lower has early 80's color. My 76 SP1 has the same color between the upper and lower.image.jpgimage.jpg

My cousin(Retired Col.) says he was issued an M16 carbine in 1979 with exactly the same set-up, 16 inch Barrel
With 1:12 twist, manganese finished upper , dark colored lower. He said this was a special issue as the normal barrel was normally 14.5 inches. My cousin says that the carbine I am buying is in very good
Condition & has been well maintained. On full automatic mode it has performed without any hitch. I'll try to
Post a picture of the flash hider later

[herd118]

It has the correct forward assist, the Elisco Tool manufactured large round type with the domed head. Everything about that 653P is as issued, I've seen 16" barrels used as well as 14.5" on the Philippine production.

[colt933]

Have you ever seen the movie 'Platoon'? Those are all Eliseo guns, and if you freeze frame, you can see the markings on Barnes' rifle at least once. The historical inaccuracy is that the two sergeants' rifles have 14.5" instead of 11.5" barrels.