Need opinion on ambi safety Defense Package

[420ollie]

I wanted to get an ambi safety and came across this.

http://www.defensepackage.com/?data=...sp&sku=1002000

It is a Defense Package ambidexterous safety. It looks good to go. I just wanted to see what you guys think of it.

[swedeboy]

I'm curious too. I have 2 sets of the BAD-A$$ but they're $20 more and I'm looking at getting 3 more sets. These are an interesting alternative so I'd like to hear from someone who may have both to see how they compare.

[420ollie]

Is there anybody that has experience withthese?

[VIP3R 237]

Hmm thats looks very similar to the bad-ass, but maybe not as refined and using an allen head screw vs a torx. price is right though.

[PD2BP253]

I have both Battle Arms and Defense Package, I think they're both GTG... I would say they're pretty equal, for $20 you get a 3 levers instead of DP's 2.

[DeltaSierra]

If you need an ambi-safety selector, the Battle Arms Development selectors are the way to go.

The dovetail on the BAD makes more sense from a design perspective, and is the only ambi-selector that I could recommend.

[SomeOtherGuy]

If you need an ambi-safety selector, the Battle Arms Development selectors are the way to go.

The dovetail on the BAD makes more sense from a design perspective, and is the only ambi-selector that I could recommend.

Unless I'm mistaken, the dovetail fit is only on the BAD-CASS, which costs $10 more and has limited availability of the lever options.

Also, Troy's ambi safety also uses a dovetail fit, but with a spring detent instead of a screw to hold the arms secure.

I have a BAD-ASS waiting to install, and it's clearly a high quality piece, but $60+ for a selector is getting kinda pricey. FWIW, I also have in use a Kies ambi selector that was $32 and works quite well. No dovetail or six different lever options, but it does have two lever sizes, reversible for whichever thumb you want to have the long one, and is half the price.

[.300]

I have the Troy lever on my rifle and it works great. I didn't think it would be secure with just the spring detent but it is. This does look interesting though.

[Duffy]

We (Battle Arms Dev.) offer a life time, unconditional warranty on the selectors.

The free lever exchange program is also life time, unconditional (condition, age, appearance, etc. are all immaterial)

The differences of various selectors are more than skin deep.

We have reworked the detent holes size, detent groove shoulder depth and angle, the "ramp" angle, and the length of the selector center, now there's nothing like it in the market. The lever's 90 degree shelf, diagonal serrations, center groove, the absence of a pointer (the pointer is replaced by a simple groove), various dimensions to accommodate different preferences, are all refinements unheard of and unseen previously.

There are reasons our selectors are smooth, have positive detent engagement, and minimal lateral movement. Many attribute this to the KNS detent we include. The KNS detent will help many selectors, but NOT if the detent groove and holes are less than ideal. The real magic takes place in the detent groove and detent holes. We have spent untold amount of time and money on perfecting it.

We're also the first manufacturer to include a detent in the selector kit back in 2010. In 2012, the included items list has been expanded to: 2 extra screws and a detent spring. I'm sure that'll be copied soon enough lol.

Add these refinements to our penchant for overdoing things, the result speaks for itself. We don't design or produce competition grade gear, all of our products are designed for folks going in harm's way. Whereas aluminum may have sufficed, we use heat treated steel. When off the shelf screws are readily available and cheap, we had half a million custom, Grade 8 screws made to our specification. When factory specs are good enough, we went beyond and found the sweet spots that nobody bothered to research.

As a company policy, above and beyond is the baseline, and we always go beyond the baseline, that's an unwritten policy. You can see evidence of which in the product, in our conduct, and in the way we interface with our customers

[Stickman]

This thread reminds me I need to pick up a few more safeties from Battle Arms Development.