Originally Posted by
a0cake
SOne guy who is in close contact with Ruger engineers reports that they are literally "losing sleep" over the issues.
This is good and bad. It's bad because it confirms that buying a rifle will be hit or miss at this point in time, and good because it means the current issues are likely to be solved in the future. The formula they have is a winner -- properly executed, it seems unbeatable for the price. I'm sure people who are getting rifles made on fresh tooling are extremely happy. I just don't want to play the hit or miss game right now.
Without a comparable bolt gun, I think it still makes sense for me to hop into the hit/miss game, as even if I get a total miss I wouldn't be adverse to throwing a custom barrel and handguard at it, and if need be machining my own aluminum bolt shroud... but that's the angle where I'm coming at it from - to me it's a $4000 weapon system after optics/mount/bipod/sling/Ti-Can so I wouldn't really blink at having to spent that kind of money to sort it out, but for somebody having to save to put together this as a $2000 system and having either of those problems, it's a deal-breaker.
The tooling age thing really sounds likely, as it probably was engineered around lower likelihood of tolerance stacking that what the production demands have been - but that should be as simple as spending a bit more per rifle on QA/Metrology after figuring out which are the really key dimensions and they'll have a real winner.
I also really want this to succeed because a scaled up long action version of this would also be awesome, but for that to really work they'd need to sort out these kinds of issues mentioned - the peaches among these sound really impressive, and if they were all that good nobody would care if the street price floated up $50/rifle, which is probably what it would take to get pickier about tooling and a few key dimensional variance points.
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