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    That could be used possibly as a way to guide towards the solution of total reciprocating mass. A problem could arise though, as the balance of total mass and action mass can be a negative depending on carrier bounce. Generally, more action mass in the buffer reduces the issues.
    I would tend to prefer an action (buffer) mass that reduces issues reasonably over the cycle of the action. In some combinations it has shown that the A5H2 with a full mass M16 carrier bounces more than a A5H4 with a reduced carrier mass for some, but it is few. There does seem to be a trend though that shows of what may be.

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    Updated weights, I had some failures to strip a new round and failures to lock back with the 6.87oz setup with American Eagle 55gr today. Ran amazing suppressed but once it got dirty and I removed the can it started to choke. Backed the weight down to 5.99oz

    A5H1 - 4.55oz
    A5H2 - 5.47oz
    A5H3 - 6.31oz
    A5H4 - 7.16oz

    These include the last weight rubber end and spring from an A5 buffer

    A2 with 5 steel weights and aluminum spacer - 5.18oz
    A2 with 1 tungsten and 4 steel weights and aluminum spacer- 5.99oz
    A2 with 7 steel weights (aluminum spacer removed) - 6.14oz
    A2 with 2 tungsten and 3 steel weights and aluminum spacer- 6.87oz
    A2 with 6 steel weights and 1 tungsten weight (aluminum spacer removed) - 6.98
    Last edited by dmaxfireman; 12-21-15 at 15:09.

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    I was working on this very same topic and puchased a short section of carbide tungsten from ebay but have to get it cut to size to test. Should make about 4 weights. Too hard to cut with hand tools so it needs to go to a machine shop for a lathe. May also cut down an aluminum spacer to the steel/tungsten size for more combinations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dmaxfireman View Post
    Updated weights, I had some failures to strip a new round and failures to lock back with the 6.87oz setup with American Eagle 55gr today. Ran amazing suppressed but once it got dirty and I removed the can it started to choke. Backed the weight down to 5.99oz

    A5H1 - 4.55oz
    A5H2 - 5.47oz
    A5H3 - 6.31oz
    A5H4 - 7.16oz

    These include the last weight rubber end and spring from an A5 buffer

    A2 with 5 steel weights and aluminum spacer - 5.18oz
    A2 with 1 tungsten and 4 steel weights and aluminum spacer- 5.99oz
    A2 with 7 steel weights (aluminum spacer removed) - 6.14oz
    A2 with 2 tungsten and 3 steel weights and aluminum spacer- 6.87oz
    A2 with 6 steel weights and 1 tungsten weight (aluminum spacer removed) - 6.98
    Thank you for taking the time to do and post this. Always nice to have more info.

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    Clint at Heavy Buffers sells an XH for an A1/A2/A4 rifle: AR15R-XH - 11 ounces.

    Pricey though, due to the tungsten.

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    I found tungsten cut to size on rainier arms but they want $16 a weight. Cost me $20 for a 3" bar. Didn't think it would be so hard to cut but found out other wise.

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    Bumping this back to the top. Been running the 5.99oz buffer set up for the past couple years and it was working famously with the White Oak barrel. I recently swapped out the White Oak for a Douglas from Compass Lake. I was having failures to lock back about 25% of the time. I am going to switch back to a stock A2 buffer setup or switch out my A1 stock for a true A5 setup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dmaxfireman View Post
    Bumping this back to the top. Been running the 5.99oz buffer set up for the past couple years and it was working famously with the White Oak barrel. I recently swapped out the White Oak for a Douglas from Compass Lake. I was having failures to lock back about 25% of the time. I am going to switch back to a stock A2 buffer setup or switch out my A1 stock for a true A5 setup.
    The 6 oz buffer really isn't that heavy.

    It sounds like the gas drive may be a little low.

    Any idea on gas port sizes?
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    I agree with Clint on this. If the chamber/bore/ammunition combination delivers the proper pressure at the port location, then it should lock back with a proper total reciprocating mass, given normal porting ranges/leak down/drag/action spring/etc.. There's a few things to possibly look into, but check the basics first.

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    Measured the buffer spring, 11-9/16" but only 37 coils. Went back to the 5.99oz buffer, and going to order a new rifle spring from BCM and see if anything changes.

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