Really bad ruling from: 2nd Circuit on NY & CN

[Joe Mamma]

I do not think the cops would come to your house, line your family up, and then point a gun to your wife's head. Asking "where are they".....then one of them breaks down and reveals the location. It could happen, but the reality is that it will be a political change that remove's them. They will chip away your ability to defend or raise your hand against the gov't. You and your family will need to contemplate this ahead of time, or it will not make any difference. There are some serious consequences should you choose to go against the law/gov't.

Actually, things are probably worse than you think. This video is from Hurricane Katrina years ago, and many will say the legal/political landscape for gun owners is much worse now.

Not only could gun confiscation happen, but if it does, a lot of people will be defending the people who do it. And the people who do it will say it's not their fault, they were just doing what they were told, etc.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-taU9d26wT4

Take a deep breathe, then go find out what others in history said what they would do, then what actually happened. Are you willing to be the next Ruby Ridge ?

Most of the people among us are not Randy Weavers. The more relevant questions are will you disobey a direct and clear order, are you willing to lose your job, jeopardize your career, face punishment, etc. when you can just hide behind the person giving you the order and everyone else who is following it? Because I guarantee every military/law enforcement officer who confiscated guns during Hurricane Katrina is able to justify (in their minds) that they were doing the right thing.

Joe Mamma

[platoonDaddy]

I am glad you located the Katrina youtube video, for sure the confiscation happened and yes, they were just following orders.

[BoringGuy45]

Actually, things are probably worse than you think. This video is from Hurricane Katrina years ago, and many will say the legal/political landscape for gun owners is much worse now.

I'd have to disagree with that. Many people I know who are today very pro-gun were very anti-gun at the time. Plus, Heller and McDonald hadn't happened yet, so there was still a very big question mark among many as to whether or not the 2nd Amendment is an individual or collective right. The GOP-controlled Congress was very close to passing a permanent assault weapons ban. Even handguns were in extreme danger of being banned up until Heller.

Ironically, it was the Hurricane Katrina confiscations that really gave new life to gun rights and swung the pendulum in our direction. For years, people said the NRA was nothing but a bunch of alarmists and conspiracy theorists for claiming that the government was going to come door-to-door for our guns. Then, the government DID go door-to-door for people's guns. Suddenly, it wasn't a conspiracy theory anymore; it was reality. Katrina showed a good cross section of why we have the 2nd Amendment.

[platoonDaddy]

From the loony left coast:

Firearms Policy Coalition Ramps Up Gun Rights Grassroots to Oppose Lt. Gov. Gavin Newsom’s “Safety for All Act” Gun Control Ballot Initiative]

Instituting a total, confiscatory ban on the possession of “large-capacity magazines” – even legally-owned “grandfathered” magazines and those that are possessed by active and retired law enforcement officers;
Adding severe and expensive new restrictions on ammunition purchases, including a mandatory DOJ ammunition purchase permit for anyone who wants to buy ammunition, a ban on private ammunition sales, and a gun owner database of ammunition purchasers;
A ban on the private purchase and importation of ammunition from out-of-state retailers;
Requiring all ammunition sellers to acquire a special DOJ ammunition sales permit and to have every employee that handles or sells ammunition to have a DOJ-issued Certificate of Eligibility;
A $25 Million theft of fees paid by gun owners to fund the new DOJ ammunition program;
And other gun control regulations that have already failed passage in the Legislature or were vetoed by Governor Jerry Brown.

https://www.fpcsadc.org/2015/10/27/f...ot-initiative/

[jpmuscle]

Yea... They can go to hell.

[TMS951]

Yea... They can go to hell.

Or hopefully drift off into the pacific ocean. Califonia would be best as an independent dictatorship. We don't need that shit here.