Sig 320 vs Glock

**Doc Safari** · 11-13-17, 16:05

Originally Posted by Tokarev

Which of these pistols listed above requires the user to pull the trigger on an in-battery slide to disassemble?

That's somewhat beside the point because best practices for safe handling would require you to clear the weapon before disassembly anyway.

**Big A** · 11-13-17, 16:09

Originally Posted by Tokarev

Which of these pistols listed above requires the user to pull the trigger on an in-battery slide to disassemble?

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Which one of those discharges when you drop it?

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**dhnut1973** · 11-13-17, 16:14

The same guys that harp on having to pull the trigger to disassemble the Glock probably do dry-fire training. You have to clear your pistol correctly before cleaning and dry-fire. Drop it already.

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**WillBrink** · 11-13-17, 17:24

Originally Posted by jimjc

Isn't it strange that Glock leg never existed before Glocks...No it's the guns triggers fault without that Glock trigger it would never have happened. It never happened to HK owners who originated the striker fired guns far before Glock. Glock came out with a new fangled trigger that required special handling and accidents happened many times because of the trigger, with a different trigger it wouldn't have happen.

Manufactures have been confronted with issues like Glock forever. They make something and for whatever reasons the device becomes a problem and many people are hurt, so what should happen, They need to redesign the device so people don't get hurt. period. That's what Sig did and that's not what Glock did. period

One is a software problem, the other a hardware problem. Period.

**WillBrink** · 11-13-17, 17:24

Originally Posted by RHINOWSO

How is the weather up New Hampshire this time of year?

SIG only needed a video on youtube to "admit" it.

Love their literature... "SAFETY WITHOUT COMPROMISE. Safety isn’t negotiable. The P320 maximizes peace of mind with a robust safety system."

They should change it to this...

"If you build it completely drop safe, you legitimize mishandling." - Ron Cohen, CEO SIG Sauer

Back OT, the G19 everyday and twice on Sunday. And I owned 2 x P320Cs. Bigger, heavier, and as we know now, not drop safe.

NH? Not this guy.

**WillBrink** · 11-13-17, 17:32

Originally Posted by Tokarev

Which of these pistols listed above requires the user to pull the trigger on an in-battery slide to disassemble?

Originally Posted by Doc Glockster

That's somewhat beside the point because best practices for safe handling would require you to clear the weapon before disassembly anyway.

This. It's not a strong point of the Glock design in my view, but I don't ever dissemble a fire arm without checking multiple times if it's loaded. If you fail to do that with a Glock, the results are not fun, but still a software problem.

Originally Posted by dhnut1973

The same guys that harp on having to pull the trigger to disassemble the Glock probably do dry-fire training. You have to clear your pistol correctly before cleaning and dry-fire. Drop it already.

I'b bet those who do regular dry fire work more likely to make sure the gun is clear before they dissemble it. It's moot anyway. You can't lazy proof a fire arm, no matter how many safeties one adds.

**Tokarev** · 11-13-17, 17:41

Originally Posted by WillBrink

This. It's not a strong point of the Glock design in my view, but I don't ever dissemble a fire arm without checking multiple times if it's loaded. If you fail to do that with a Glock, the results are not fun, but still a software problem.

I'b bet those who do regular dry fire work more likely to make sure the gun is clear before they dissemble it. It's moot anyway. You can't lazy proof a fire arm, no matter how many safeties one adds.

The user is ultimately responsible. That's a given. That should always be the case.

With that said, intentionally designing a pistol that allows the magazine to remain in the gun and requiring the same gun to require a pull of the trigger to take the slide off is a recipe for disaster. One moment of distraction or going into an admin/cleaning mode on only a couple hours sleep and BAM!

Glock disassembly has bit a bunch of dudes over the years. Does that mean all these guys are unprofessional or don't take safety seriously? Glock should have fixed this design issue 20 years ago.

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**Doc Safari** · 11-13-17, 17:43

Originally Posted by Tokarev

The user is ultimately responsible. That's a given. That should always be the case.

With that said, intentionally designing a pistol that requires the magazine to remain in the gun and requiring the same gun to require a pull of the trigger to take the slide off is a recipe for disaster. One moment of distraction or going into an admin/cleaning mode on only a couple hours sleep and BAM!

Glock disassembly has bit a bunch of dudes over the years. Does that mean all these guys are unprofessional or don't take safety seriously? Glock should have fixed this design issue 20 years ago.

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?? Unless I read your post wrong.

Glocks don't require you do leave the magazine in the pistol to disassemble it. They do require a pull of the trigger.

**Tokarev** · 11-13-17, 17:48

Originally Posted by Doc Glockster

?? Unless I read your post wrong.

Glocks don't require you do leave the magazine in the pistol to disassemble it. They do require a pull of the trigger.

I edited my post. Hopefully it is clearer now.

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