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    Quote Originally Posted by southswede View Post
    Regardless of sample size, I do my very best to avoid dropping any gun.

    However with a USA sample size of 500,000+ an extremely small % of P320's have gone off when dropped.
    We all do. But people who actually carry and use firearms on a daily basis, ie incorporate it into their daily lives likely want a weapon that is as drop safe as can be.

    But keep defending a piece of polymer and steel.

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    Phil Strader showing the old vs new SIG parts.

    Apologies if this is already linked.




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    Quote Originally Posted by RHINOWSO View Post
    We all do. But people who actually carry and use firearms on a daily basis, ie incorporate it into their daily lives likely want a weapon that is as drop safe as can be.

    But keep defending a piece of polymer and steel.
    I'm still gaining experience carrying a handgun on a daily as I have only been doing so since 1988. In this time, I have learned that safety begins with and ends with me. I learned to be accountable and responsible for the firearm I carry. I learned to be responsible enough to avoid dropping any firearm.

    The P320 is a solid platform. It doesn't need me (or anyone else) to defend it. For the record, I shoot and carry M&P's and Glocks more than my P320.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tokarev View Post
    Phil Strader showing the old vs new SIG parts.

    Apologies if this is already linked.

    https://youtu.be/u9vIY2EoJwE


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    Are you defending this piece of polymer and metal?

    Looks like Sig put a lot of thought into resolving the concerns people have had. Thanks for posting the link.

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    Quote Originally Posted by southswede View Post
    I'm still gaining experience carrying a handgun on a daily as I have only been doing so since 1988. In this time, I have learned that safety begins with and ends with me. I learned to be accountable and responsible for the firearm I carry. I learned to be responsible enough to avoid dropping any firearm.

    The P320 is a solid platform. It doesn't need me (or anyone else) to defend it. For the record, I shoot and carry M&P's and Glocks more than my P320.



    Are you defending this piece of polymer and metal?

    Looks like Sig put a lot of thought into resolving the concerns people have had. Thanks for posting the link.
    Yea we do everything we can to avoid accidents however that said even the best trained shooters have done ND's. You can get in a fight over your weapon and have it knocked from your hands etc. Life is a bitch having a gun that will fire when dropped is bad. No defense to that.
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    On the subject of firearms that might discharge if dropped at one certain angle, it's the equivalent of the Ford Pinto bursting into flames if the gas tank ruptures in a rear-end collision. Maybe it wouldn't happen every time, but why own something where you have to worry about it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alaskapopo View Post
    Yea we do everything we can to avoid accidents however that said even the best trained shooters have done ND's. You can get in a fight over your weapon and have it knocked from your hands etc. Life is a bitch having a gun that will fire when dropped is bad. No defense to that.
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    So does the 320 still suffer from this defect or has SIG identified and corrected it?

    Reading the SAAMI test protocols the pistol is dropped basically on six sides of a cube. Flat on its sides, top, bottom and then flat on the muzzle and rear of the slide. The 320 probably passes that without issue.

    Maybe better industry drop testing is what we should be talking about...

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    I have been told its been corrected in the military guns and the civilian guns will be corrected as soon as the old parts are used up. Don't like that. They should do a recall and get all the parts replaced.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alaskapopo View Post
    I have been told its been corrected in the military guns and the civilian guns will be corrected as soon as the old parts are used up. Don't like that. They should do a recall and get all the parts replaced.
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    They are replacing the parts. I think the argument should be more about the way it was handled (not that I care that much) than the actual issue because they are being fixed, if the owner decides to do so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wake27 View Post
    They are replacing the parts. I think the argument should be more about the way it was handled (not that I care that much) than the actual issue because they are being fixed, if the owner decides to do so.
    Fair point


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    Quote Originally Posted by Alaskapopo View Post
    Yea we do everything we can to avoid accidents however that said even the best trained shooters have done ND's. You can get in a fight over your weapon and have it knocked from your hands etc. Life is a bitch having a gun that will fire when dropped is bad. No defense to that.
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    Which is why Sig fixed the issue, without charging their customers a dime.

    Quote Originally Posted by Alaskapopo View Post
    I have been told its been corrected in the military guns and the civilian guns will be corrected as soon as the old parts are used up. Don't like that. They should do a recall and get all the parts replaced.
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    You have been told wrong. The guns are having parts swapped out as we speak. I personally know of two such P320's that have been taken care of with a 7 day turn around.

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