A new M193 comes to market (MEN)!

[killshot1]

Well, just bought a case of this stuff! I have CBC 55gr, 62gr, and their 77gr, I can compare it to once it gets here, and I make it to the range.

Thanks Grant!

Zane were do you buy your CBC 77 gr ? OP excuse me for changing the subject here !

[Lamented]

Is this stuff loaded a little hot like Lake City? Is this good plinking ammo?

[C4IGrant]

Zane were do you buy your CBC 77 gr ? OP excuse me for changing the subject here !

More 77gr is coming into the country as we speak (has been out for a very long time).


C4

[C4IGrant]

Is this stuff loaded a little hot like Lake City? Is this good plinking ammo?

It is M193. Yes, it is great for plinking.


C4

[Pappabear]

No, not necessarily. The German company (MEN) also makes pistol ammo and it is fantastic (especially their 124gr 9mm NATO). The problem is that European defensive rounds don't make it to the US. So all we know is what we have in front of us.

If anyone can get a M193 load to shoot half inch groups at 100yds, please show us!

C4


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I'll try to get some to do so. I have a couple gas guns and a bolt gun , that if possible, they should give it a solid chance.

PB

[markm]

Yeah. The only 55 gr I've ever seen capable of sub MOA is VMAX. Pappabear has the most accurate bolt gun ever made. If this ammo can do it, his gun will be up for it.

[Swstock]

Anyone have opinions on the MEN 7.62x51? I'm curious how the 5.56 quality carries to other calibers.

[bfoosh006]

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[markm]

Anyone have opinions on the MEN 7.62x51? I'm curious how the 5.56 quality carries to other calibers.

I pulled one round apart to see what was going on inside. It appears to have about 42.0 grains of a fine ball powder, a 147 gr ball projo, and a boxer primed case with a relatively small flash hole and neck sealant. The round I pulled didn't require much effort with the inertia puller. Sample of one... but doesn't seem like there was much neck tension at all. I have to whack away at my rounds, and they have heavier bullets.

[pinzgauer]

Germany, Austria, Switzerland, Sweden, Finland have many products in the "shooting" category I would consider 2nd to none.

A long time ago when 7.62 x 51 was still very cheap I remember discussions regarding German 7.62 NATO. I only had experience with the DAG headstamp and not MEN but both were considered to be very, very accurate.

If affordable DAG or MEN surplus 7.62 became available again I'd buy it in a heartbeat.

I'm still shooting vintage surplus of both, and on another precision forum folks were finding it shot 3/4 moa fairly reliably.

I know my (sorely missed) HK 91 loved it, and I shot many battle packs of it.



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