You have until Dec 21 to register your Drone

[jpmuscle]

Lots of statism going on here....

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[Circle_10]

So does the FAA losing this case also mean someone who shoots a drone out of the sky isn't going to be charged with the federal crime of downing an aircraft now? I recall the FAA making that threat.

[SteyrAUG]

Because what can go wrong when you jam frequencies in and around airports...

They already do it around certain other government installations including some military airports. It's either that or pay the skeet club to enforce the airport perimeter. Personally I'd prefer the skeet solution but I don't see it happening. They could also have a fleet of attack drones but I don't see that being anything like 100% effective either. On the alternative I don't see registration really fixing the problem.

If people are going to be stupid enough to "hobby fly" near the airport, fines after the fact won't present a disaster or make other stupid hobbyist magically intelligent. Also won't do a single damn thing to prevent someone dedicated to a terrorist ideology from flying a drone and trying to bring down a plane.

If it's really about safety, you have to have a way of preventing drones from operating in these areas. So until someone comes up with a better plan than blocking the signal that is the best plan, registration will do NOTHING to prevent an incident. Cars are registered, doesn't prevent people from driving through Times Square, doesn't prevent people from driving under the influence, doesn't prevent people from using them to flee from the police nor does it prevent people from using registered cars from criminal activity of any kind. And if they swap out the plates, the registration becomes pretty useless for any "after the fact" resolutions unless they actually manage to stop the car or find it later.

[Digital_Damage]

They already do it around certain other government installations including some military airports. It's either that or pay the skeet club to enforce the airport perimeter. Personally I'd prefer the skeet solution but I don't see it happening. They could also have a fleet of attack drones but I don't see that being anything like 100% effective either. On the alternative I don't see registration really fixing the problem.

If people are going to be stupid enough to "hobby fly" near the airport, fines after the fact won't present a disaster or make other stupid hobbyist magically intelligent. Also won't do a single damn thing to prevent someone dedicated to a terrorist ideology from flying a drone and trying to bring down a plane.

If it's really about safety, you have to have a way of preventing drones from operating in these areas. So until someone comes up with a better plan than blocking the signal that is the best plan, registration will do NOTHING to prevent an incident. Cars are registered, doesn't prevent people from driving through Times Square, doesn't prevent people from driving under the influence, doesn't prevent people from using them to flee from the police nor does it prevent people from using registered cars from criminal activity of any kind. And if they swap out the plates, the registration becomes pretty useless for any "after the fact" resolutions unless they actually manage to stop the car or find it later.

That plan is simply retarded on so many levels...

Take a few moments to think about what you are saying.

I'm going to assume you have been to the few locations out west that do that, and you know what the operating procedures are for those places. Tell me what does not work at those locations.

[SteyrAUG]

That plan is simply retarded on so many levels...

Take a few moments to think about what you are saying.

I'm going to assume you have been to the few locations out west that do that, and you know what the operating procedures are for those places. Tell me what does not work at those locations.

I'm talking about a few places I have been that were blocking all cell phone signals. Seems to me if you can do that safely, should be able to develop a way to block drone signals.

Because nothing else is going to "prevent" anything.

[Honu]

most idiots using basic drones the software is set to not allow flying in official no fly zones these days
you can get stuff that bypasses it ? and well fine if they get caught doing that they loose everything and go to jail !



the thing is many no fly zones are kinda like you cant carry a gun there ! and not really no fly zones

if we need to regulate anything its cell phones when driving ? (not saying do this just saying for arguments)
when drones start killing 11+ people daily I will say lets look at it !

again software of no fly areas is one way to control the basic idiots
just like in car technology to disable phone use in the driver area


technology not allowing drones is growing even using birds taking out drones and then again if caught in true no fly zones harsh fines and jail time


but when you are near a park and flying a drone and some over zealous ranger and his LEO buddy decide you are a hardened criminal for flying your drone near a waterfall ! that is over reach IMHO


if a idiot hits me with a drone then the law suit should be swift and massive $$ damage to the idiot flying the thing near people

again against hit the normal regular guy ! only hit those doing stupid things and hit them so freaking hard it will never happen again
waterfall at a park not a real danger !
flying near a airport ! pure idiocy !

[Digital_Damage]

I'm talking about a few places I have been that were blocking all cell phone signals. Seems to me if you can do that safely, should be able to develop a way to block drone signals.

Because nothing else is going to "prevent" anything.

They are not just blocking cell and it does not work that way... two communities near by had to sue because their garage doors and keyless entry systems would not function. You can't just target "drones" in a wide area, you can only target frequencies and bands. Those frequencies operate in a spectrum that 80% of civilian wireless communication devices do.

[Honu]

They are not just blocking cell and it does not work that way... two communities near by had to sue because their garage doors and keyless entry systems would not function. You can't just target "drones" in a wide area, you can only target frequencies and bands. Those frequencies operate in a spectrum that 80% of civilian wireless communication devices do.

have you seen much on some of the new point type devices ?

I have only seen a few short things and never researched as I am not into it saw something that was a small dish type setup that they can point and disable drones ? no idea if its real or a idea etc.. but a pain to have to do but seems for some places a good idea to knock a drone out of the area safely



still thinkblocking of all channels in a wide area etc.. with some of the new medical devices being sensitive can see that being a bad idea incl the thing you mentioned above

again target small not wide sweeping

[jpmuscle]

most idiots using basic drones the software is set to not allow flying in official no fly zones these days
you can get stuff that bypasses it ? and well fine if they get caught doing that they loose everything and go to jail !



the thing is many no fly zones are kinda like you cant carry a gun there ! and not really no fly zones

if we need to regulate anything its cell phones when driving ? (not saying do this just saying for arguments)
when drones start killing 11+ people daily I will say lets look at it !

again software of no fly areas is one way to control the basic idiots
just like in car technology to disable phone use in the driver area


technology not allowing drones is growing even using birds taking out drones and then again if caught in true no fly zones harsh fines and jail time


but when you are near a park and flying a drone and some over zealous ranger and his LEO buddy decide you are a hardened criminal for flying your drone near a waterfall ! that is over reach IMHO


if a idiot hits me with a drone then the law suit should be swift and massive $$ damage to the idiot flying the thing near people

again against hit the normal regular guy ! only hit those doing stupid things and hit them so freaking hard it will never happen again
waterfall at a park not a real danger !
flying near a airport ! pure idiocy !

Absolutely not.

I don't want .gov writing software for anything. I don't want Chevy et al. Disabling my cell when I get in my car.

As for the drones come to DC and fly one line of site into a myriad of any restricted areas and see how it goes. The police will find you and they will have a chat with you about it. You probably won't go to jail but you'll think twice before doing it again.

That being said, passing laws to mandate licensing and registration isn't going to stop ISIS from putting explosives on one and dropping into a crowd.

Get real people. Laws don't stop actions and behavior. In this context their only purpose is to expand the investigative authority of the gov to further and unnecessarily intrude into the lives of we the people.

Maybe we should have a no buy no drone list? Please...

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[sevenhelmet]

Targeted anti-drone efforts are definitely better than broadband jamming IMO, especially as crowded as the spectrum has become. A lot of drones work on Wifi frequencies, and I'm pretty sure everybody would get mad if those got jammed. Again, hold the owners responsible for their actions if they endanger someone or violate a secure area. Don't punish the entire crowd over the actions of a few.