Thinking about a pistol can

**nimdabew** · 07-27-17, 10:32

I saw on silencer shops website they have dead air ghost-m's for 850. Digging a little further on their site, that apparently includes the transfer fee too. Is this can worth it after getting it transfered to one of their preferred dealers for about 950 out the door and a year+ wait for the can?

https://www.silencershop.com/silence...r-ghost-m.html

**Singlestack Wonder** · 07-27-17, 10:52

I would also take a look at the Rugged Obsidian on Silencer Shop's website. Both the Dead Air and Rugged guys used to work at Silencer Company so quality and performance from either is great. The Obsidian has received good reviews for suppression.

Also, I don't believe the $200 tax stamp fee is included with the Dead Air Ghost. Only the transfer fees for dealer to dealer and dealer to individual are included.

**MegademiC** · 07-27-17, 12:00

I'd take a look at the griffin rev9. Don't know how the sound stacks up to the dead air, but size and weights are comparable. The new ones handle rifle rounds in very small volumes, think hunting application. Interesting if it's a first can for you, as it allows you to experiment.

**tb-av** · 07-27-17, 14:46

Get a light one.

Griffin Alpha at 14.5 oz or so will not allow my VP9 to cycle. Not that I bought it for that purpose, but not everything works well on certain pistols. Apparently the VP9 is touchy in that regard. Plus even if it did cycle, it's just too much front weight. It doesn't feel right.

**Co-gnARR** · 07-27-17, 14:59

The nice thing about the Obsidian is it takes SiCo pattern pistons, whereas the Ghost uses proprietary pistons. That said, I chose Dead Air because it was in stock when I purchased. I am looking for a second can for future sub gun use and the Obsidian is my likely choice because the 3 lug mount looks like the best option out there.

ETA: my can is still in jail, so I can't give objective performance reviews. As for the Obsidian's 3 lug mount, I think I read some where that it does not add any length to the suppressor. That info is not listed in the product description on Rugged's site, however, so I need to make sure that is a correct statement. Personally I think either can is a winner.

**Rayrevolver** · 07-27-17, 18:09

Dead Air just teased what looks like a 9mm modular can:
https://www.instagram.com/p/BXDsOnVl...adairsilencers

I would NOT pay $850 for a Ghost when the Obsidian is $654. While I have an Obsidian, I am really liking the specs on the new AAC Tirant 9M. I only shoot 9mm AND I don't plan a lot of cleaning with shooting 9mm factory ammo through the can. The Tirant with some AL baffles was a turn off for me in my shopping phase (I wanted all SS baffles dammit), but now in hindsight, does it really matter? I am happy with the Obsidian in Long on a PCC. Haven't bothered to shoot the short config.

Shot both a USP9T and 226. Both worked fine but the blow back with Speer Lawman 147gr was noticeable. In the last 4 months I have shot the pistols once each, the rest was a PCC. Just a heads up, but the can might grow an expensive 9mm carbine/SBR of some sort!

**nimdabew** · 07-27-17, 19:35

Originally Posted by Singlestack Wonder

Also, I don't believe the $200 tax stamp fee is included with the Dead Air Ghost. Only the transfer fees for dealer to dealer and dealer to individual are included.

Normally I would agree, but there is no option to ass a $200 tax stamp like with some other cans, and the part on the right hand side of the website says "price includes all transfer fees." I am not sure how to read it any other way.

**nimdabew** · 07-27-17, 19:37

The tirant 9M was on my short list too. I will probably get a 45 can though just so I don't have to buy another one later down the road. Nice to know about the obsedion taking SiCo pattern pistons.