Taser Pulse or C2?

[yinorela]

You're better off with pepper spray.

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I don't trust her yet to deploy mace or pepper spray properly yet.. I need to spend time with her and practice!

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[vicious_cb]

Tasers generally suck because of the low incapacitation time, great for LEOs who can go hands on and cuff immediately after taser employment but not so great for civilians.

Give someone a faceful of Sabre Red or Fox and they're out of the fight for a good 30 mins.

[Grizzly16]

Tasers generally suck because of the low incapacitation time, great for LEOs who can go hands on and cuff immediately after taser employment but not so great for civilians.

Give someone a faceful of Sabre Red or Fox and they're out of the fight for a good 30 mins.

I wouldn't bet on them being out of the fight for 30 minutes. Part of pepper spray training for us was to be able to "function" after taking a good dose of FOX to the face. That included running, shooting, using a baton and some wrestling. Now it did suck and some people found they were sensitive to pepper spray and really struggled. Others were able to function relatively well, to include getting center of mass shots at 10 ft, accurate baton strikes and being able to wrestle a bit. I was assuredly not at 100% probably not even 25% on the shooting because of watery eyes. But given an opponent I over matched by size and skill I could still win if the motivation was right.

And that was in a situation where I had to stand there eyes open staring at the instructor while he lined up an ideal shot. If you don't get a good accurate spray and or mix in any kind of pain killing drugs or mental disorder and I'd bet even less on pepper spray quickly breaking them down for 30 minutes.

[vicious_cb]

I wouldn't bet on them being out of the fight for 30 minutes. Part of pepper spray training for us was to be able to "function" after taking a good dose of FOX to the face. That included running, shooting, using a baton and some wrestling. Now it did suck and some people found they were sensitive to pepper spray and really struggled. Others were able to function relatively well, to include getting center of mass shots at 10 ft, accurate baton strikes and being able to wrestle a bit. I was assuredly not at 100% probably not even 25% on the shooting because of watery eyes. But given an opponent I over matched by size and skill I could still win if the motivation was right.

And that was in a situation where I had to stand there eyes open staring at the instructor while he lined up an ideal shot. If you don't get a good accurate spray and or mix in any kind of pain killing drugs or mental disorder and I'd bet even less on pepper spray quickly breaking them down for 30 minutes.

Maybe the better term is degraded. The dudes Ive seen who were sprayed in training would typically feel the effects for ~30 mins like squinting, tearing, pain, irritation. Could you fight through all those symptoms, sure. But Id rather have that than the bad guy popping right back up after you stop applying current.

[Grizzly16]

Maybe the better term is degraded. The dudes Ive seen who were sprayed in training would typically feel the effects for ~30 mins like squinting, tearing, pain, irritation. Could you fight through all those symptoms, sure. But Id rather have that than the bad guy popping right back up after you stop applying current.

I concur on that. But pepper spray must be applied properly to be effective on the bad guy and not blow back on the user. And it is far from a game ender. I'd still suggest getting decent with some realistic martial art so you can defend yourself at least a bit and gain separation to use whatever tools available.

[vicious_cb]

I concur on that. But pepper spray must be applied properly to be effective on the bad guy and not blow back on the user. And it is far from a game ender. I'd still suggest getting decent with some realistic martial art so you can defend yourself at least a bit and gain separation to use whatever tools available.

Pretty much. I dont think theres a such thing as a less than lethal game ender. Some dudes just wont go down no matter how much you apply pepper spray or electricity ect.

[diving dave]

Back in my LEO days I had great results with the X26. Pepper spray was hit or miss. My partner and I were attacked by a guy who had used peyote and was having a really bad trip. OC had no effect, and both my partner and I were whacking the guy with 29 inch hard wood batons, no effect. The only thing that he felt was the taser.