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Thread: Apex Grade Barrel For The S&W M&P9: A Quick Look

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    Quote Originally Posted by C4IGrant View Post

    I would highly doubt that Apex test fired your gun at 10yds. More like 25yds.


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    I've been contacted by the Project Specialist for Apex Tactical Specialties and that test-target was indeed fired at a distance of 10 yards.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Molon View Post
    I've been contacted by the Project Specialist for Apex Tactical Specialties and that test-target was indeed fired at a distance of 10 yards.



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    That seems super odd as barrels don't show any issues till 15yds or farther. That group spread is large to me (looks like a 25yd groups off a rest).


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    Here is a 17rd group I shot this morning (free hand) @ 20yds with random 115gr 9mm I "found" loose in my range bag (read crappy ammo). I should also mentioned that I have not pulled a trigger on a pistol in over 2 months. This is why I thought the 10yd group looked large.



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    Quote Originally Posted by C4IGrant View Post
    That seems super odd as barrels don't show any issues till 15yds or farther. That group spread is large to me (looks like a 25yd groups off a rest).


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    I figured I should chime in about the test target in question.

    The target does reflect 10 shots from a distance of 10 yards offhand. It was what our technician shot for function and approximate sight in after the barrel was fitted, not for group. The technician was shooting in a poorly lit indoor range using the iron sights, since the optic was not provided. This was also in the mix of some 20 firearms that the tech had to test fire that day. While I will not make any excuses for the large group, it is important to bear in mind that the gun is obviously capable of consistent mechanical accuracy.

    The test fire fee is not the same as the Ransom Rest accuracy charge. If you were charged for the Ransom Rest test, please call our office so we can arrange for your gun to be returned to us for expedited Ransom testing.

    We differentiate function/sight adjustment targets from accuracy targets by the red center. When I shoot from the Ransom Rest, I use a black and white target with a black dot in the center because the RMR dot matches the 1" black center at 25 yards.

    Here are a couple of examples of our Ransom test targets:

    Grassi_Apex GF_4.25.jpg
    Mk1 8_26_15 25yd 115gr Fiocchi jhp.jpg

    The groups are pretty typical ofthe results we are getting from our Gunsmith fit barrels.

    We are changing our test fire procedures for barrels we fit in house as a result of this thread to reflect mechanical accuracy. It was one of the things that slipped through the cracks since I have been doing more administrative work that back at the bench or in the shop...

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    That looks more like it Randy. Thanks for chiming in and I think it is wise to make that change (as people will see that group and not be impressed). The groups you posted ARE impressive.


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    At this point, I have a total of 300 rounds of factory-loaded ammunition fired from the Apex Grade Gunsmith Fit Barrel and have not had any malfunctions. The 10-shot group pictured below was fired from the bench at a distance of 25 yards using factory-loaded Federal 124 grain HST ammunition. The group has an extreme spread of 1.38"








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    Everybody say it with me

    APEX MAKES THE MOST ACCURATE M&P BARRELS IN THE UNIVERSE!
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    The recessed crown . . .














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    Quote Originally Posted by Molon View Post
    At this point, I have a total of 300 rounds of factory-loaded ammunition fired from the Apex Grade Gunsmith Fit Barrel and have not had any malfunctions. The 10-shot group pictured below was fired from the bench at a distance of 25 yards using factory-loaded Federal 124 grain HST ammunition. The group has an extreme spread of 1.38"








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    Wow. Thank you for the report.

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