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Thread: Vltor A5 vs. Geissele Super 42, which is better?

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    I have both, both have functioned great, and I don't feel any need to replace one with the other. Disassembling the 42 buffer to tune the buffer weight is easy, as is the convenience of being able to drop it into any standard carbine receiver extension, so i'll probably stay that route going forward.

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    It might be better to look at these as levels of function with the compromises of some timing events for use during the lifespan of platform.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ragnar03 View Post
    I have both, both have functioned great, and I don't feel any need to replace one with the other. Disassembling the 42 buffer to tune the buffer weight is easy, as is the convenience of being able to drop it into any standard carbine receiver extension, so i'll probably stay that route going forward.
    That's exactly what I like about it over my A5 setup also. Plus the Receiver extension isn't as long so all stocks collapse all the way down and if you don't like it easier to change back. Plus it's easier to dissasemble the buffer to tune and cheaper than buying new Vltor buffers.

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    If you compare the stresses and strains involved with timing for many events in the system, you'll see many advantages with a rifle like action system for durability/reliability of the system as a whole.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tom12.7 View Post
    If you compare the stresses and strains involved with timing for many events in the system, you'll see many advantages with a rifle like action system for durability/reliability of the system as a whole.
    Would you care to explain at length your current opinion on which product best addresses problems with the current mil-spec system and why? What is your current understanding of component timing issues over the life of the weapon?

    I'd prefer to avoid addressing attempting to overcome manufacture variances outside of specification and focus on improving an in-spec weapon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aries144 View Post
    Would you care to explain at length your current opinion on which product best addresses problems with the current mil-spec system and why? What is your current understanding of component timing issues over the life of the weapon?

    I'd prefer to avoid addressing attempting to overcome manufacture variances outside of specification and focus on improving an in-spec weapon.
    He and I have both already done this here on M4C. Several times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BufordTJustice View Post
    He and I have both already done this here on M4C. Several times.

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    Will do, thank you.

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    I've got a Geissele G42 spring on a lower using my BCM mid-length gas system upper and it has worked fine; it's more quiet than the stock spring, and the recoil impulse is a bit smoother. Not a "must have" part but a nice addition nonetheless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BufordTJustice View Post
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    To be honest, you two get so damn sciencey that its hard to understand. I believe the Cliff notes version would say that the A5 provides more benefits, correct?
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    In a nutshell, from this rookie's understanding...

    Use Vltor A5 unless any of these three conditions apply:
    • You are forbidden by employing-agency policy from replacing buffer tube, or are building a strict cosmetic-clone of a milspec config
    • You can't afford the extra 3/4" length of the A5 tube, like a short arm or a minimum-size pistol, or a Michigan-style length-limit on pistols
    • You're on a tight budget and need the extra forty or fifty bucks somewhere else

    If any of these apply, use Geissele instead.

    How's that for a nutshell, Tom and Buford?
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