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    Shooting on the move

    Does anyone have tips or techniques for putting accurate shots down range on the move?

    At a two gun match this past weekend there was a stage where you had to engage a 100 yard miniature steel silouhette while closing with it. Aside from being rusty from not firing a long gun in about three years, I found hitting it on the move to be about as difficult as getting my girlfriend to think I looked good with long hair.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Goodtimes View Post
    Does anyone have tips or techniques for putting accurate shots down range on the move?

    At a two gun match this past weekend there was a stage where you had to engage a 100 yard miniature steel silouhette while closing with it. Aside from being rusty from not firing a long gun in about three years, I found hitting it on the move to be about as difficult as getting my girlfriend to think I looked good with long hair.


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    Practice, practice, practice. First and foremost.

    I love the "sniper" (if someone has the actual name of this method, please throw it out there, that's the name it was given to me during a rifle class) sling method for engaging while moving.



    Probably not the intent of the sling method, but something I have found to work well if I am aware of the transition or what not.

    Other than that, it's all about shot placement and trigger control. Just like the swaying of a rifle when shooting standing, the rifle will never be 100% steady, it's knowing when the rifle, the POA, the follow through, and your target will all be in order when the hammer drops.

    Than again, I may be lucky, my girlfriend fell in love with me and my long hair. (Before I sold my soul to the white collar industries and conformed)

    ETA: I just noticed that it's a Miniature Steel Target. Gunna be a tough one, for sure. I am inclined to agree with Grant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HeruMew View Post
    Practice, practice, practice. First and foremost.

    I love the "sniper" (if someone has the actual name of this method, please throw it out there, that's the name it was given to me during a rifle class) sling method for engaging while moving.



    Probably not the intent of the sling method, but something I have found to work well if I am aware of the transition or what not.
    Never seen that, the guy looks like he is using a loop sling technique, but has the loop on the wrong arm.

    A 'hasty sling' might work, but overall, I don't see that a tight sling is really conducive to shooting on the move. If you are gliding correctly your head should remain on essentially the same plane with little or no movement, you do have to you some degree, very small, of movement in your support arm to keep the dot semi centered when moving.
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    I did not know what I did not know. There is an article explaining the 'Sniper' method in the September issue of NRA Shooting Illustrated - Loop Up, page 92.

    I upped the ante on my NRA membership and paid to have it in addition to American Rifleman. They haven't put the September issue on line yet, but if anyone wants to check back they can do so at: http://www.nrapublications.org/

    I occasionally bought Shooting Illustrated when it was on newsstands, now it is only available through the NRA.

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    When practicing shooting on the move think "smooth". You will see movement of your sight system on the target and smooth movement beats jerky movement. Slow, smooth movement allows you to engage when the sight system is at or near center of mass of the target. When moving with a carbine imagine carrying a full cup of coffee on top of the front sight base. Move as if you are trying not to spill any of the coffee.

    The farther away from your centerline you mount the stock, the more side to side movement you will see while moving. Try moving the stock as far inboard as you can comfortably move it. Ideally you want your head erect and not canted anymore than is necessary to secure a good cheek weld.

    Whether or not you use a sling while moving is personal preference, I use a light hasty sling. If you do not use the sling, you do not want it swinging in the breeze, as this will induce movement of the sight system. The lower anything hangs off the carbine, the more movement you will induce. If you sling up and torque the sling tight, the carbine will move toward the arm applying pressure to the sling when the carbine is fired. Imagine bending a spring. If you bend a spring, then release it, the spring will move to it's natural state. The same thing happens with the sight system when sling pressure draws the carbine left or right.

    Think of your body like tank. Everything above the belt line is the turret and barrel. Below the belt line are the tracks that will deal with the terrain. Your hips, legs and feet will deal with movement over rough terrain while the part of your body above the belt line smoothly rotates from side to side while engaging targets.

    Taking a lot of smaller heel to toe steps vs long strides reduces vertical movement. If you have a long distance to cover this is a slow technique, but if you are only moving 25 to 50 yards it is a practical technique. The more you practice, the faster you will be able to smoothly cover ground while engaging targets.

    This is the Cliff Notes version, I hope it helps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by T2C View Post
    When practicing shooting on the move think "smooth". You will see movement of your sight system on the target and smooth movement beats jerky movement. Slow, smooth movement allows you to engage when the sight system is at or near center of mass of the target. When moving with a carbine imagine carrying a full cup of coffee on top of the front sight base. Move as if you are trying not to spill any of the coffee.

    The farther away from your centerline you mount the stock, the more side to side movement you will see while moving. Try moving the stock as far inboard as you can comfortably move it. Ideally you want your head erect and not canted anymore than is necessary to secure a good cheek weld.

    Whether or not you use a sling while moving is personal preference, I use a light hasty sling. If you do not use the sling, you do not want it swinging in the breeze, as this will induce movement of the sight system. The lower anything hangs off the carbine, the more movement you will induce. If you sling up and torque the sling tight, the carbine will move toward the arm applying pressure to the sling when the carbine is fired. Imagine bending a spring. If you bend a spring, then release it, the spring will move to it's natural state. The same thing happens with the sight system when sling pressure draws the carbine left or right.

    Think of your body like tank. Everything above the belt line is the turret and barrel. Below the belt line are the tracks that will deal with the terrain. Your hips, legs and feet will deal with movement over rough terrain while the part of your body above the belt line smoothly rotates from side to side while engaging targets.

    Taking a lot of smaller heel to toe steps vs long strides reduces vertical movement. If you have a long distance to cover this is a slow technique, but if you are only moving 25 to 50 yards it is a practical technique. The more you practice, the faster you will be able to smoothly cover ground while engaging targets.

    This is the Cliff Notes version, I hope it helps.
    Excellent information here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 26 Inf View Post
    I did not know what I did not know. There is an article explaining the 'Sniper' method in the September issue of NRA Shooting Illustrated - Loop Up, page 92.

    I upped the ante on my NRA membership and paid to have it in addition to American Rifleman. They haven't put the September issue on line yet, but if anyone wants to check back they can do so at: http://www.nrapublications.org/

    I occasionally bought Shooting Illustrated when it was on newsstands, now it is only available through the NRA.

    I am currently getting American Rifleman with my Life Membership.

    I may switch to Shooting Illustrated as I hear it contains a little bit different of focus on topics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HeruMew View Post
    I am currently getting American Rifleman with my Life Membership.

    I may switch to Shooting Illustrated as I hear it contains a little bit different of focus on topics.
    I had been getting American Rifleman, when I renewed for five I opted to pay 9.95 extra for a year of Shooting Illustrated.

    Topics are different, but ALLLLLLLL the editorial stuff is exactly the same.

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    like i always say, practice makes perfect, this is real life and not the movies LOL. steadiness, breath control and timing is the keys. know when you body is settled, take a deep breath and fire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Goodtimes View Post
    Does anyone have tips or techniques for putting accurate shots down range on the move?

    At a two gun match this past weekend there was a stage where you had to engage a 100 yard miniature steel silouhette while closing with it. Aside from being rusty from not firing a long gun in about three years, I found hitting it on the move to be about as difficult as getting my girlfriend to think I looked good with long hair.


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    Shooting on the move at a target that far out (and small) is really not realistic IMHO. Not that it cannot be done, but realistically, you stop and shoot (kneeling, prone, etc).

    With that out of the way, moving and shooting is really about accepting your wobble zone, bending your knees and arms (to absorb bounce) and narrowing and shortening your stride. It is a learned skill that you have to practice with.

    Work on pistol first and then move to long gun.


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