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    First impressions: KAC ACC

    Over the years I have gone from a lover of things KAC, to a pure hater. This ebb and flow has stemmed from multiple reasons, but that's not what this thread is about. I'm sure there are various folks who may remember some of my more colorful posts on the subject. This post is about how I have come full circle, and really appreciate KAC products again.

    This all stemmed from a KAC bashing session here on M4C where I took a lot of flak for railing against KAC due to some negative experiences I'd had in recent years with some issued kit. It got ugly, people got butt hurt, only the Knights rep stayed cool and professional.

    At the time I owned an OBR (still own it) and a LMT MWS. I figured I would put my money where my mouth was and get into the KAC game too. I would either confirm my negative ideas or end up with a new toy that lived up to the hype. I hit up the friendly company rep and said that I had two SR-25 pattern guns, and that I wanted an upper. He obliged all my questions and when we got down to brass tacks about money, it wasn't a huge stretch to make it a complete gun rather than just an upper so I bit. We chatted for over a year about pros and cons about different configurations and after and few bumps in the road I got my gun.

    No question about it, my OBR is a laser beam. It shoots. Period. Precision gas gun was covered, so I wanted the impossible: lightweight, easy shooting, hardcore-parkour-gangster, commando heavy carbine. I ordered an MLOK ACC with MAMS. I've carried various iterations of SR-25 rifles (MK11, M110 SASS) and the MK17. Not much lightweight about the SRs, and the MK17 is light and kicks like more than most want. I'm talking real MK17, not 17S with cannon break on the end. I thought that what KAC was touting the ACC to be was impossible. So I trusted Jack and ordered it.

    Well I'm a few hundred rounds in, and so far I'm digging it. A lot. I'm not going to test it for maximum accuracy potential. I have that covered and didn't buy this to fill that role. I wanted something I could engage 20" targets out to 500m and still be handy at short ranges. Thusly it wears a scope that tops out at 8x, and will likely never see more power than that. The gun impressed me. I don't get excited much about guns anymore. I'm pretty jaded. This makes me grin when I shoot it. Recoil is nothing like 308. It's more like 762x39. The MAMS is incredible in that dept.

    When Jack tells you that you're getting a lightweight 308 that shoots fast and flat, he's telling the truth. What he doesn't tell you is how fun it is.

    I'll likely add more observations as they come up. I still have only two very short range sessions with the carbine so far.

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    Thank you for sharing your observations. I am pondering a similar rifle, and will be listening with great interest.

    Thanks again, and stay safe.

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    Definitely #1 on my list.

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    If the ACC was reliable I'd look seriously at replacing several 7.62 rifles.
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    I just received mine Monday and have not had a chance to test it out yet.

    If it shoots as nice as it looks and feels I'll be happy. Mlok rail and a MAMS....

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    Quote Originally Posted by 7n6 View Post
    If the ACC was reliable I'd look seriously at replacing several 7.62 rifles.
    Are you insinuating that it is not reliable?

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    I've recently picked up an ACC MLOK w/MAMS as well and also was taken aback at how "handy" it is. I haven't done much with it yet; just can't decide on an optic so its been a loaner Comp M4 and irons only so far.

    Choosing a LPVO is not so easy these days as they all seem to have some strong pros and cons.

    Honestly the ACC has me looking at my 5.56 rifles and wondering what I will be doing with them going forward and if they would be better served as 7.62 ammo trade in. Its been several years since I've been in the .308/7.62 arena and I stupidly sold all my ammo/components when I had no rifles so will be starting over at today's pretty high prices.
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    My understanding is the Kahles 1-6x is an often overlooked but attractive option. I really like the form factor of the S&B 1-8x Short Dot, but I won't be getting my hands on one anytime soon. I'm becoming a Euro glass whore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boba Fett v2 View Post
    My understanding is the Kahles 1-6x is an often overlooked but attractive option. I really like the form factor of the S&B 1-8x Short Dot, but I won't be getting my hands on one anytime soon. I'm becoming a Euro glass whore.

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    I really like Kahles and S&B. When my APR comes in I'm almost certain a S&B 3-20 ultra short is going on it. I just wish they would update their reticles because I would love something like the SKMR the Kahles 6-24 has (which I think I will use to replace the USO on my long range custom '06) but I can live with the MSR, that's for sure.

    As far as the k16i goes I have considered it but there is definitely less information out there on it in the form of user reviews. Weight looks similar to the Mark 6 and I've heard the eyebox and illumination are top notch. The SM1 reticle definitely looks usable with 10 mils in .5mil increments as well as the two illuminated portions for close range use.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Falar View Post
    I really like Kahles and S&B. When my APR comes in I'm almost certain a S&B 3-20 ultra short is going on it. I just wish they would update their reticles because I would love something like the SKMR the Kahles 6-24 has (which I think I will use to replace the USO on my long range custom '06) but I can live with the MSR, that's for sure.

    As far as the k16i goes I have considered it but there is definitely less information out there on it in the form of user reviews. Weight looks similar to the Mark 6 and I've heard the eyebox and illumination are top notch. The SM1 reticle definitely looks usable with 10 mils in .5mil increments as well as the two illuminated portions for close range use.
    I've become a fan of Horus reticles ever since I got my hands on a rare 4-16x42 PM II equipped with an H37. I'm just happy that S&B offers those reticle options in some of their glass, even though you'd have to take out a second mortgage to buy one.

    Sounds like you should give the Kahles some serious consideration going forward.

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    Last edited by Boba Fett v2; 10-05-16 at 17:51.
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