1 mile cartridge?

[waveslayer]

What size steel targets, AR500, and how thick to shoot 308 at 500 yards and beyond? I have a 16" x16" gong 1/4" thick. I don't want to destroy it with rifle fire. I have a 3/8" 12" x20" target as well. What size do I need? I will be using a 14X or 20X NF scope. Will be using 16" 5.56 and 16" and 24" 308.

1/4 " is fine for a .308 at 500 yards. You won't destroy it. Nor will a .223. The .223 losses velocity pretty quick

My wife thinks I only have 3 guns

[Pappabear]

What size steel targets, AR500, and how thick to shoot 308 at 500 yards and beyond? I have a 16" x16" gong 1/4" thick. I don't want to destroy it with rifle fire. I have a 3/8" 12" x20" target as well. What size do I need? I will be using a 14X or 20X NF scope. Will be using 16" 5.56 and 16" and 24" 308.

with 308 you will be fine. We reserve the 1/4 to 800-1000 range due to magnum shooting. A magnum will beat up a 1/4 at 500 but 308 should be good to go.

shoot it once and check it just to be confident of the wallop, make sure your OK with the level of ding it puts on it.

PB

[markm]

A .22LR will go a mile, too.

If I gotta make a 1 mile shot, I'm not screwing with some belted .30 magnum and I'm certainly not going to concern myself with the price tag required to make that kind of distance.

I'm not tracking. Coming from the handloader's perspective... Belted Mags are not too much trouble to load. And you can run them on standard presses. I know you can't do this with .50 bmg, and I'm pretty sure 338LM won't work on my press.

Perhaps if we had a really sweet 1 mile shooting spot that we had regular access to... a 338LM would be worth the trouble and expense.

On a side note, I think the most critical ingredient for a mile shot it a large, clear hillside that makes spotting easier. Even at 1300 yards, we lose a few spots/calls due to rocks/plants.

[wilson1911]

The range I shoot on like to make thing easy for the most part. Most targets are at least 10 inches, then the further you step out, the bigger they get, 12 inches is a good number. For 1k I would do at least a 24" target or use your current 12x20. This will make it a bit easier to spot your misses/hits with, a better sight picture, and get square plates for more area. The corners matter. I would recommend the lighter plates in AR500. I know you will shoot 556 as far as you can. The lighter weight will make them swing better due to the lighter impacts. Your trying to teach yourself LR shooting, if you want more precision, paint a smaller circle on them or build a 500 yard KYL with a 10, 6, and 3 set.

Do use the 2x primer/paint to repaint them. It covers a lot better than regular paint, so you spend less money.

I buy my personal plates from the targetman. They are mostly the 66% ispc 3/8's. I have shot them at 500 yards with a 338LM w/300 smk's. While it does knock them over, it does nothing to the plate. So a 308 is not going to scratch a lighter plate either.

[sinister]

If you're not going to use an E-type and you don't have an experienced spotter or coach you may need something big enough to show whether or not you hit or missed (and where):

[masan]

now thats a target!

[Arkansas Bob]

7mm RemMag will do it. I've shot 162 Hornady ELD's that far. Was about 17 mils. The 28 Nosler is much better past 1500 than the RemMag.


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[FourT6and2]

Don't get a 6.5 Creedmoor if you want to be able to hit consistently and "with authority" at 1 mile (1760 yards). I have a 26" 6.5CM with a muzzle velocity of 2818fps (140gr) and my DOPE at 1 mile at a Density Altitude of 2000 would be 22.3 mil of drop and 0.7 mil of left windage. My table for energy drops off at 1500 yards. But at that distance it's only 408 ft/lbs. And the round is sub-sonic.

Thinnest air I've shot in was a DA of around 8000 I think. And even at that altitude, the come-up at 1 mile would be 19.1 mil. These are totally doable dials/holds. But you're gonna have a hell of a time hitting your target. And at that distance... what size is your target? I typically shoot a 66% IPSC. I don't think I could hit that at 1 mile.

[Lost River]

.338 Lapua or else one of the Cheytac offerings, otherwise It's time to look at .50BMG

It becomes readily apparent when a person has done a lot of reading, but has very little if any real world experience on a subject matter.

1 Mile shooting, bears and elk hunting all immediately come to mind.

A .300 WM running 220 SMKs (like in MK248-1) or 215 and 230 Berger VLDs will get it done with little fuss.





I am fortunate in that I have some property that allows for almost unlimited LR shooting opportunities.

[Pappabear]

what state are you in? That is beautiful land and looks to be a great range.

PB