Not exactly sure what this means. On the Sig web site they say that the 290 is restrike capable in case of a hard primer. Does this mean that you just pull the trigger again to fire? Do striker fire guns have this ability? Or only hammer guns?
Not exactly sure what this means. On the Sig web site they say that the 290 is restrike capable in case of a hard primer. Does this mean that you just pull the trigger again to fire? Do striker fire guns have this ability? Or only hammer guns?
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It's a useless capability in my opinion. If you are properly trained in basic pistol operation, you should preform an immediate action drill. Tap, rack, assess. Nowhere in my many years of firearms training has anyone attempted to teach me to just keep pulling the trigger if the gun doesn't fire....
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Yes,
Almost all DA/SA hammer fired pistols offer restrike.
A few hybrid striker pistols do as well.
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Like Cory said above: If the bullet doesn't go bang the first time, don't keep f***ing around with it. Get it out of there and get a fresh round in. WHICH is EXACTLY what you are doing when you keep pulling the trigger on a revolver...moving on to a fresh chamber.
I have been told that under stress, while attempting to shoot at speed, it is not uncommon for one to keep pulling the trigger before one processes the fact that the gun is no longer shooting due to a bad/hard primer. In such an instance, a second strike capability may have some use.
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FWIW,
If you have a gun (say a comp pistol or precision rifle) that is not used to or doesn't like harder primers, repeated attempts will ultimately deaden the primer completely and render it incapable of ignition. If you have a single light hit by chance and follow that up with a solid primer strike (or put it in a gun built to fire harder primers/milspec), there is a chance to achieve ignition...a CHANCE. Is that juice worth the squeeze? The argument is that a squeeze of the trigger is "faster" than immediate action. It may be, but when there is an (at best) 50/50 chance for a "click" or "bang" on the second pull, that "time" is now a complete waste. Armchair quarterbacks at work...most likely one's that couldn't work a DA/SA semiauto anyway...
Extolling "second-strike" capability as a desirable feature in a "combat handgun" or as an apt technique is completely stupid.
Th vast majority of type one stoppages(no bang when you expected one) are due to unseated magazines which means you either didn't chamber a round to start or you got off one round before the gun failed to load another due to an unseated magazine. Pulling the trigger repeatedly is a waste of time. I don't doubt that you may pull the trigger repeatedly before processing a stoppage while under stress. However a dead trigger is far more informative than one that works while under stress. Auditory seclusion, tunnel vision etc all play against you and having a trigger that functions with a gun/cartridge that doesn't may give you a false sense of "hey I'm chucking lead down range" when in fact you're simply dry firing the shit out of your gun. Your immediate action drill/response should be instinctive and will greatly reduce the possibility of repeated trigger pulling. Second strike capability is a bullshit marketing gimmick.
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Last edited by Mysteryman; 12-07-16 at 16:31.
I've done this with my USP45. Not under stress, per-say, but just having some fun with a mag dump. I was firing as fast as I could and second-struck a round that didn't go off the first time; it did go off on the second hit and through the rest of the mag I went. I didn't even realize what happened until it was over. I confirmed with one of my buddies.
Just sayin'.
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