7.62x25 Tok and modern pistols

[Jolr]

Why isn't the 7.62x25 Tok loaded into a modern semi with modern expanding bullets? It is one nasty little round!

[CAVDOC]

The overall length of the cartridge means it can't fit in most modern designs until you get to big blocky things like glock 21's. won't fit in a standard 1911 for example. When people buy big heavy guns I suspect they want big bullets to go along with them

[Mr. Goodtimes]

They do, it's called .357 Sig.


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[Jolr]

The overall length of the cartridge means it can't fit in most modern designs until you get to big blocky things like glock 21's. won't fit in a standard 1911 for example. When people buy big heavy guns I suspect they want big bullets to go along with them

The Tok is shorter than the .40 S&w

[Arik]

The overall length of the cartridge means it can't fit in most modern designs until you get to big blocky things like glock 21's. won't fit in a standard 1911 for example. When people buy big heavy guns I suspect they want big bullets to go along with them

There was a 7.62x25 conversion for the 1911 but you needed a 38 super 1911 if I'm not mistaking.



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[Arik]

The Tok is shorter than the .40 S&w

40 is 10x22 with overall length of 28.8mm.

7.62 Tok is 7.62x25 with an overall length of 34mm

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[_Stormin_]

They do, it's called .357 Sig.

100% accurate. There is no reason to bother with 7.62Tok when you have .357Sig

[Jolr]

Would the Tok with its smaller diameter bullet and higher velocity defeat body armor more easily?

[Arik]

I don't think you need a gun the size of a G21 since the Tokarev isn't that big and itself a copy of the Colt 1903.

There's really no point in it. The 7.62x25 produces about the same energy as a 40S&W. Some specialty ammo does reach into the 500 ft-lbs and some hollow points barely reach 9mm energy. Buy a 40 with a 357 SIG conversion and you have your Tok

There is the OTs-27 which is som like a crude looking S&W model 59. A few other countries made modern guns in that caliber but not many

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[Jolr]

I don't think you need a gun the size of a G21 since the Tokarev isn't that big and itself a copy of the Colt 1903.

There's really no point in it. The 7.62x25 produces about the same energy as a 40S&W. Some specialty ammo does reach into the 500 ft-lbs and some hollow points barely reach 9mm energy. Buy a 40 with a 357 SIG conversion and you have your Tok

There is the OTs-27 which is som like a crude looking S&W model 59. A few other countries made modern guns in that caliber but not many

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What about ability to defeat body armor?