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  1. 01-19-17, 19:36 #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by HKGuns View Post
    There will likely be one less military base in Europe as a result of this one. Especially when you consider how it went down.
    Care to elaborate a bit more on that? Attempting to read between the lines on it but nothing is jumping out at me.
    Genuinely curious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Outlander Systems View Post


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    On topic though, I'd like to know more about the shenanigans that are being alluded to.
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    I'm curious too. Are the Italians going to kick the airborne out of Vincenza or is the Navy getting the boot?

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    Any word on what caliber was chosen?

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    Interesting how it "failed miserably" in the fbi but passed dod. Never got a real answer on how it failed though. But you would think they would share information.
    Without knowing the details of each test it's not possible to know the answer. A gun could fail one and pass another. We simply don't have enough information to determine anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MOLON AABE View Post
    Care to elaborate a bit more on that? Attempting to read between the lines on it but nothing is jumping out at me.
    Genuinely curious.
    It was widely speculated the somewhat controversial adoption of the M-9 was to ensure Italy allowed us to establish / maintain (I don't recall which) a military presence in the country. Not certain they will go away, but it is possible.

    Nice to see all the gLoCker's in here to dirty the waters.

    There are various reasons but several sources in the Army claim Congress, always well informed, pushed the 9mm pistol on the Army to place the United States in line with NATO. Others say it was a leveraged deal, involving contracts for military bases in Italy.
    The situation was not helped by the rumour that the adoption of this Italian designed pistol was in exchange for the creation of US missile bases within Italy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HKGuns View Post
    It was widely speculated the adoption of the M-9 was to ensure Italy allowed us to establish a military presence in the country.

    Nice to see all the gLoCker's in here to dirty the waters.
    I have always been a fan of the M9, and the M9A1, personally I don't believe there wasn't much the M9A3 can do that any other duty sized handgun on the market can do better.

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    The GAO investigated the Italian basing rumor and found that there was nothing to it.
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    In B4 the butthurt ??

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    Sig should have gotten the last contract back in 1988. Glad the gummint finally came around. Only took a few years...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Firefly View Post

    I have a 30 year old P226 that I am constantly in a debate of whether I should keep it or not
    Not even sure why that is a question. You have a vintage classic SIG.

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