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Thread: Bushmaster ACR: Not Quite Dead Yet?

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    If Remington could get the ACR design worked out- that could save their company.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 7n6 View Post
    If Remington could get the ACR design worked out- that could save their company.
    The problem is they could. If anyone could why wouldn't it be them. But they refuse to. Remington has the resources and manufacturing ability to make the greatest anything they want.

    When I see the Remington name I avoid it. Hows that for brand recognition.
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    It seems they have the hardware, but lack the management to pull the trigger, or technical expertise in-house still to pull it off. Hard to tell from the outside, but I avoid them now as well... just based off what I've seen with their ammo 1st hand.

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    The thing is it seems like they have for the most part worked out the design. Take a look at the Remington Defense website and you can see their version of the ACR that they have previously submitted in several weapons trials. It has a more modern handguard that, with a few minor changes, could be updated to M-Lok standards. The lower has been upgraded to feature a replaceable pistol grip, and the barrels have been reprofiled to be much lighter.

    If Remington would release that gun to the civilian market without blowing up the price they would have a winner on their hands. Yet management at Remington just seems to have their heads up their asses.

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    Aren't Remington's "Sniper Rifles" like no shit $8,000?

    I just am blown away that a small outfit in Wisconsin can innovate so much and motherfreaking Remington is essentially selling 1990s Ford Escorts.
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    Remington is a brand that I also avoid. I don't like what they have done with the ACR platform, at all. This rifle could have been win, win but they screwed it up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eurodriver View Post
    Aren't Remington's "Sniper Rifles" like no shit $8,000?

    I just am blown away that a small outfit in Wisconsin can innovate so much and motherfreaking Remington is essentially selling 1990s Ford Escorts.
    Actually the number that is in my head for some reason is $16k. However, regardless the price, it was a full package deal with everything including optic and I believe repair and parts replacement for the service life of the rifle. Not defending them, just providing facts. Can tear them apart for a lot of other things. Murdering a perfectly fine rifle design among them.
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    The ACR has represented the most unrealized potential of any rifle on the market over the last 5 years. The real shame is that you can look at photos of the exact configuration that consumers want to spend money on being touted at trade shows or Remington defense online. The ACR was among the most interesting ground up designs of what a modern rifle should be and existed on the market for nearly a decade before many manufacturers have been able to catch up. If you look at the new rifles that people are drooling over such as the HK 433 and MSBS they are very similar to the ACR that Remington Defense has been teasing for years.

    If Remington would release the Remington defense ACR with the magnesium lower, redesigned m-lok handguard, and a barrel w 1/7 twist in a smart profile and you would have a winner. They are 98% of the way there but someone that matters just isn't being cc'd in emails. Remington desperately needs a win as they have proven completely unable to produce a winning product in recent times. R51,RM380, 877, 782, R51 2.0 and RP9 top their resume over the last 5 years and yet they have a product line with a part numbers assigned that would be competitive. Yet management just sits on it.

    But I have never completely understood Remington. It seems that one of their longest running traditions is completely dropping the ball on good ideas. .260rem, 6.8spc, ACR, screwing up the 700, AAC(which was positioned to be THE silencer manufacturer), the R51, RP9, MSR(mk21 PSR) have all proven that we shouldn't expect a lot from Remington. The only thing that has come from Remington outdoors that wasn't DOA in the last decade was the 300blk. Which wasn't an original idea, had massive help from industry, and they ran the people involved out of the company. Which is a shame, and a clue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kain View Post
    Actually the number that is in my head for some reason is $16k. However, regardless the price, it was a full package deal with everything including optic and I believe repair and parts replacement for the service life of the rifle. Not defending them, just providing facts. Can tear them apart for a lot of other things. Murdering a perfectly fine rifle design among them.
    EuroOptics has an MSR kit for $21K, but it comes without a scope. The 2015 full package included a Leupold Mark 4 and an AAC Titan QD with all three caliber conversions.

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