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  • No further than the usual whining and melodrama. They're too cowardly.

    59 16.91%
  • There will be a lot more broken windows, torched cars, and blocking of highways

    211 60.46%
  • An American version of the IRA: Car bombs, daily murders of police officers, assassinations, etc.

    68 19.48%
  • Full civil war: Large factions will form and fight a conventional war.

    11 3.15%
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Thread: Does the Left Have the Balls for an Actual War?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doc Glockster View Post

    "The once-serious political party known as “Democrats” has been hijacked by lawless lunatics who have been sowing discontent and fomenting violence for years now."

    http://www.breitbart.com/big-governm...-already-here/
    After the Civil War the Democrat party created a terrorist wing during Reconstruction, the Ku Klux Klan. They not only terrorized southern blacks but also white Republicans. This shit went on well into the 1960's. Read up on the Freedom Summer murders. The role that white Republicans played in the Civil Rights era has been essentially ignored.

    Dinesh D’Souza went into detail about this in his documentary Hillary's America.

    Democrats and violence have been a thing for a long time in this country.
    "In a nut shell, if it ever goes to Civil War, I'm afraid I'll be in the middle 70%, shooting at both sides" — 26 Inf


    "We have to stop demonizing people and realize the biggest terror threat in this country is white men, most of them radicalized to the right, and we have to start doing something about them." — CNN's Don Lemon 10/30/18

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doc Glockster View Post
    The fundamental principle you're missing is that Deep State forces are organizing and fomenting rebellion on the left to bring about change outside the system.

    Once you realize they are not playing by the rules it becomes a whole new ball game.

    What's "brewing" is the left's attempt to take over this country outside its venerated institutions--either through civil disobedience, threats of violence, unconventional means, or other methods.

    The basic undeniable tenet of leftist tactics of the last few years is that they realize the gig is up as far as influencing things within the system, and so now the impetus is toward doing outrageous things OUTSIDE the system. They can't win at the ballot box or in the courts, so they have to alter their tactics toward harassment, haranguing, and intimidation.

    This is what makes them so dangerous: They are already fighting a civil war and the rest of us had better wake up and realize it.
    I think they've been successful, very successful so far without violence. The problem they are going to face is, Maxine might tell people to "Get out and Fight!" but quite honestly, She's not showing up for the beat up, or the beat down.
    These deluded individuals are taking this to a level where they have never been and do not comprehend the consequences. I mean you can actually "win" a knife fight, but die from the loss of blood and that may be what this ends up looking like.
    Not having a lot of experience outside of the placid and equitable nature of middle class suburbs, a lot of the cannon fodder is in for one hell of a surprise.
    The unholy alliance of Leftist Politicians from the 1960's, A totally corrupted Main Stream Media and an uneducated, but totally "woke" group of 16 to 30 year old's is going to cause a lot of harm.



    Most of that harm to themselves.


    Listen to this Muppet, he's asking for Liberals to "Put their bodies on the Line!"
    Now do you think when it gets real fat Mike is going to show up for the fight?
    No, but some deluded 20 something skipped class to be there. They're lambs to a violent slaughter.
    Stupid Lambs, but nonetheless, they're being fooled.
    Last edited by Averageman; 06-30-18 at 08:16.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Averageman View Post
    I think they've been successful, very successful so far without violence. The problem they are going to face is, Maxine might tell people to "Get out and Fight!" but quite honestly, She's not showing up for the beat up, or the beat down.
    These deluded individuals are taking this to a level where they have never been and do not comprehend the consequences. I mean you can actually "win" a knife fight, but die from the loss of blood and that may be what this ends up looking like.
    Not having a lot of experience outside of the placid and equitable nature of middle class suburbs, a lot of the cannon fodder is in for one hell of a surprise.
    The unholy alliance of Leftist Politicians from the 1960's, A totally corrupted Main Stream Media and an uneducated, but totally "woke" group of 16 to 30 year old's is going to cause a lot of harm.



    Most of that harm to themselves.


    Listen to this Muppet, he's asking for Liberals to "Put their bodies on the Line!"
    Now do you think when it gets real fat Mike is going to show up for the fight?
    No, but some deluded 20 something skipped class to be there. They're lambs to a violent slaughter.
    Stupid Lambs, but nonetheless, they're being fooled.
    I guess in that case, Stalin was correct when using the term "useful idiots"..
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    Repost of what I found elsewhere, the author's name appeared at the end of the article:

    HOW DO CIVIL WARS HAPPEN?

    Two or more sides disagree on who runs the country. And they can't settle the question through elections because they don't even agree that elections are how you decide who's in charge. That's the basic issue here. Who decides who runs the country? When you hate each other but accept the election results, you have a country. When you stop accepting election results, you have a countdown to a civil war.

    The Mueller investigation is about removing President Trump from office and overturning the results of an election. We all know that.

    But it's not the first time they've done this. The first time a Republican president was elected this century, they said he didn't really win. The Supreme Court gave him the election. There's a pattern here.

    What do sure odds of the Democrats rejecting the next Republican president really mean? It means they don't accept the results of any election that they don't win. It means they don't believe that transfers of power in this country are determined by elections.
    That's a civil war.

    There's no shooting. At least not unless you count the attempt to kill a bunch of Republicans at a charity baseball game practice. But the Democrats have rejected our system of government.

    This isn't dissent. It's not disagreement. You can hate the other party. You can think they're the worst thing that ever happened to the country. But then you work harder to win the next election. When you consistently reject the results of elections that you don't win, what you want is a dictatorship. Your very own dictatorship.

    The only legitimate exercise of power in this country, according to Democrats, is its own. Whenever Republicans exercise power, it's inherently illegitimate. The Democrats lost Congress. They lost the White House. So what did they do? They began trying to run the country through Federal judges and bureaucrats. Every time that a Federal judge issues an order saying that the President of the United States can't scratch his own back without his say so, that's the civil war.

    Our system of government is based on the constitution, but that's not the system that runs this country. The Democrat's system is that any part of government that it runs gets total and unlimited power over the country.

    If the Democrats are in the White House, then the president can do anything. And I mean anything. He can have his own amnesty for illegal aliens. He can fine you for not having health insurance. His power is unlimited. He's a dictator.

    But when Republicans get into the White House, suddenly the President can't do anything. He isn't even allowed to undo the illegal alien amnesty that his predecessor illegally invented. A Democrat in the White House has discretion to completely decide every aspect of immigration policy. A Republican doesn't even have the 'discretion' to reverse him. That's how the game is played. That's how our country is run. Sad but true, although the left hasn't yet won that particular fight.

    When a Democrat is in the White House, states aren't even allowed to enforce immigration law. But when a Republican is in the White House, states can create their own immigration laws. Under Obama, a state wasn't allowed to go to the bathroom without asking permission. But under Trump, Jerry Brown can go around saying that California is an independent republic and sign treaties with other countries. The Constitution has something to say about that.

    Whether it's Federal or State, Executive, Legislative or Judiciary, the left moves power around to run the country. If it controls an
    institution, then that institution is suddenly the supreme power in the land. This is what I call a moving dictatorship.

    Donald Trump has caused the Shadow Government to come out of hiding: Professional government is a guild. Like medieval guilds. You can't serve in if you're not a member. If you haven't been indoctrinated into its arcane rituals. If you aren't in the club. And Trump isn't in the club. He brought in a bunch of people who aren't in the club with him.
    Now we're seeing what the pros do when amateurs try to walk in on them. They spy on them, they investigate them and they send them to jail. They use the tools of power to bring them down. That's not a free country.

    It's not a free country when FBI agents who support Hillary take out an 'insurance policy' against Trump winning the election. It's not a free country when Obama officials engage in massive unmasking of the opposition. It's not a free country when the media responds to the other guy winning by trying to ban the conservative media that supported him from social media. It's not a free country when all of the above collude together to overturn an election because the guy who wasn't supposed to win did.

    Have no doubt, we're in a civil war between conservative volunteer government and a leftist Democrat professional government.

    — Jason Minzey, Department Head, Education Department, Eastern Michigan University


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    If the GOP wins this fall we are going to see them at their absolute worst.
    Mueller will have used his leverage by dropping this all on us weeks before the election. the MSM will then interpret any findings from Mueller's documents and run an end around leaving facts in the wake of partisan political reporting.
    I think most Americans are prepared for this.
    The "Blue Wave" has been touted as the second coming of the Obama Administration. New "Rock Star" Socialist Democrats are being pushed to center stage. Absolutely everything has been and will be used to turn this toward the Democrat's advantage.
    It is however, just not going to happen. The gig is up, most Americans who voted for Kennedy, Carter or even Bill Clinton, no longer recognize this current iteration of the Democratic Party as there own, that's why Hillary couldn't win.

    The real trauma will happen this fall after the elections.

    https://nypost.com/2018/06/30/the-le...mp-is-winning/

    To understand the madness gripping American leftists, try to see the world through their eyes. Presto, you’re now part of the raging resistance.

    Like the Palestinians who mark Israel’s birth as their nakba, or tragedy, you regard Donald Trump’s 2016 victory as a catastrophe. It’s the last thing you think of most nights, and the first thing most mornings.

    You can’t shake it or escape it. Whatever you watch, listen to or read, there are reminders — Donald Trump really is president.

    You actually believe The New York Times is too nice to him, so you understand why a Manhattan woman urged a reporter there to stop covering Trump to protest his presidency.

    And where the hell is Robert Mueller? He was supposed to save us from this nightmare — that’s what Chuck Schumer banked on. Well?

    https://apnews.com/b5d909fc9e8642709d95a31a83c00b5c

    Former White House strategist Steve Bannon sums it up as a banner time for the president’s agenda: “In past two weeks the G-7, the economic confrontation with China, the travel ban, the border and the Supreme Court vacancy, among other events, crystalize the vital and historic nature of Trump’s presidency.”

    Trump’s political fortunes also improved this week with a series of primary elections. He decided to go all-in for South Carolina Gov. Henry McMaster, one of his earliest supporters, holding a rally in the state just hours before a tight runoff election. After Trump’s rally, McMaster cruised to victory.

    And Trump picked up a win of sorts in a congressional district in his hometown of New York. Rep. Joe Crowley, a member of the House Democratic leadership team viewed as a potential House speaker, was defeated in his primary campaign by 28-year-old Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, a former Bernie Sanders campaign organizer.

    The sudden rise of Ocasio-Cortez helps Trump paint Democrats with a broad brush, identifying them as supporters of socialist health care and economic policies.
    Last edited by Averageman; 07-01-18 at 10:24.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam View Post
    Repost of what I found elsewhere, the author's name appeared at the end of the article:

    HOW DO CIVIL WARS HAPPEN?

    Two or more sides disagree on who runs the country. And they can't settle the question through elections because they don't even agree that elections are how you decide who's in charge. That's the basic issue here. Who decides who runs the country? When you hate each other but accept the election results, you have a country. When you stop accepting election results, you have a countdown to a civil war.

    The Mueller investigation is about removing President Trump from office and overturning the results of an election. We all know that.

    But it's not the first time they've done this. The first time a Republican president was elected this century, they said he didn't really win. The Supreme Court gave him the election. There's a pattern here.

    What do sure odds of the Democrats rejecting the next Republican president really mean? It means they don't accept the results of any election that they don't win. It means they don't believe that transfers of power in this country are determined by elections.
    That's a civil war.

    There's no shooting. At least not unless you count the attempt to kill a bunch of Republicans at a charity baseball game practice. But the Democrats have rejected our system of government.

    This isn't dissent. It's not disagreement. You can hate the other party. You can think they're the worst thing that ever happened to the country. But then you work harder to win the next election. When you consistently reject the results of elections that you don't win, what you want is a dictatorship. Your very own dictatorship.

    The only legitimate exercise of power in this country, according to Democrats, is its own. Whenever Republicans exercise power, it's inherently illegitimate. The Democrats lost Congress. They lost the White House. So what did they do? They began trying to run the country through Federal judges and bureaucrats. Every time that a Federal judge issues an order saying that the President of the United States can't scratch his own back without his say so, that's the civil war.

    Our system of government is based on the constitution, but that's not the system that runs this country. The Democrat's system is that any part of government that it runs gets total and unlimited power over the country.

    If the Democrats are in the White House, then the president can do anything. And I mean anything. He can have his own amnesty for illegal aliens. He can fine you for not having health insurance. His power is unlimited. He's a dictator.

    But when Republicans get into the White House, suddenly the President can't do anything. He isn't even allowed to undo the illegal alien amnesty that his predecessor illegally invented. A Democrat in the White House has discretion to completely decide every aspect of immigration policy. A Republican doesn't even have the 'discretion' to reverse him. That's how the game is played. That's how our country is run. Sad but true, although the left hasn't yet won that particular fight.

    When a Democrat is in the White House, states aren't even allowed to enforce immigration law. But when a Republican is in the White House, states can create their own immigration laws. Under Obama, a state wasn't allowed to go to the bathroom without asking permission. But under Trump, Jerry Brown can go around saying that California is an independent republic and sign treaties with other countries. The Constitution has something to say about that.

    Whether it's Federal or State, Executive, Legislative or Judiciary, the left moves power around to run the country. If it controls an
    institution, then that institution is suddenly the supreme power in the land. This is what I call a moving dictatorship.

    Donald Trump has caused the Shadow Government to come out of hiding: Professional government is a guild. Like medieval guilds. You can't serve in if you're not a member. If you haven't been indoctrinated into its arcane rituals. If you aren't in the club. And Trump isn't in the club. He brought in a bunch of people who aren't in the club with him.
    Now we're seeing what the pros do when amateurs try to walk in on them. They spy on them, they investigate them and they send them to jail. They use the tools of power to bring them down. That's not a free country.

    It's not a free country when FBI agents who support Hillary take out an 'insurance policy' against Trump winning the election. It's not a free country when Obama officials engage in massive unmasking of the opposition. It's not a free country when the media responds to the other guy winning by trying to ban the conservative media that supported him from social media. It's not a free country when all of the above collude together to overturn an election because the guy who wasn't supposed to win did.

    Have no doubt, we're in a civil war between conservative volunteer government and a leftist Democrat professional government.

    — Jason Minzey, Department Head, Education Department, Eastern Michigan University
    Very good article. What makes these times more perilous for this country is that we no longer have a media that acts as the citizen’s government watchdog. Today they are firmly entrenched on the side of the Democratic Socialists.
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    Quote Originally Posted by flenna View Post
    Very good article. What makes these times more perilous for this country is that we no longer have a media that acts as the citizen’s government watchdog. Today they are firmly entrenched on the side of the Democratic Socialists.
    https://www.americanthinker.com/arti...bie_media.html
    Hillary called us deplorables. Jonathan Gruber called us stupid on numerous occasions. Peter Strzok, the Deep State hero, summarized us concisely as pieces of excrement. And these examples name but a few. The left-wing media have defended or obfuscated for every one of our detractors. They've insulted us directly. Apparently, they think we've been too insensible to notice. We have not. A series of landslide elections and a rough-edged real estate developer in the Oval Office later, and these pampered propagandists still believe they are the entitled shapers of public opinion. They are not. We've heard enough. We've been on the butt end of their manipulation for much too long. Let them howl. It's worth listening only for the sheer delicious satisfaction.

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    Meanwhile on the other side of town...
    Some Portland lefties get punched in the face after setting off something boomey in a group of counter-protestors.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/KBlasney/...277633/video/1
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    Quote Originally Posted by flenna View Post
    Very good article. What makes these times more perilous for this country is that we no longer have a media that acts as the citizen’s government watchdog. Today they are firmly entrenched on the side of the Democratic Socialists.
    Maybe it's because I'm only in my thirties but when did people get the notion that the media was some all knowing truth telling oracle?

    The Fourth Estate IS the Fifth Column.

    Go back to before the invention of radio and look at who owned all the newspapers and newswires. It has never been anything more than propaganda. Google quotes by William Randolph Hearst.
    "In a nut shell, if it ever goes to Civil War, I'm afraid I'll be in the middle 70%, shooting at both sides" — 26 Inf


    "We have to stop demonizing people and realize the biggest terror threat in this country is white men, most of them radicalized to the right, and we have to start doing something about them." — CNN's Don Lemon 10/30/18

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam View Post
    Repost of what I found elsewhere, the author's name appeared at the end of the article:

    HOW DO CIVIL WARS HAPPEN?

    Two or more sides disagree on who runs the country. And they can't settle the question through elections because they don't even agree that elections are how you decide who's in charge. That's the basic issue here. Who decides who runs the country? When you hate each other but accept the election results, you have a country. When you stop accepting election results, you have a countdown to a civil war.


    Have no doubt, we're in a civil war between conservative volunteer government and a leftist Democrat professional government.

    — Jason Minzey, Department Head, Education Department, Eastern Michigan University
    This is probably one of the best articulated statements of truth of the USA’a current situation I’ve read. Thank you for posting Sam.

    This guy needs a national/global platform .


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