Page 1 of 3 123 LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 35

Thread: Drop in (2 piece) free float handguards.

Hybrid View

Previous Post Previous Post   Next Post Next Post
  1. #1
    Join Date
    Jan 2017
    Location
    Colorado
    Posts
    394
    Feedback Score
    33 (100%)

    Arrow Drop in (2 piece) free float handguards.

    Hi guys. This is my first post here, although I've been lurking around for the last few weeks after deciding to finally start my first AR build (thanks to my wife and a stipped lower Christmas present). Before deciding to post I was able to read through and research from this similar thread, among other places, but it's pretty old and I didn't want to necro, so I'm hoping for some updated info. I also hope I'm posting in the correct forums to keep all the mods happy.

    To date, I've been collecting up parts, but now I'm stuck on hand guards. I've got a 16" mid length BCM upper barrel assembly with an A2 front sight that I'm not looking to remove or replace, partly because I'd hate to screw up a top notch piece of equipment with my noobiness, and thanks in no small part to this scary thread, but also because I like the look and I wanted a front sight mounted to the barrel/gas block vs. the rail. I really like the idea of drop in free float rails, but the only ones I can seem to find are the Centurion C4, Troy, MI Gen II, and Daniel Defense Omega rails. Of those I think I like the DD or MI versions best, but I was hoping to avoid a quad rail in favor of something a little more smooth and round.

    In contrast to those free float versions, I also like the MI 2 piece Keymod or M-Lok drop in's, as they're more the shape and feel I'm looking for, but ofc they're not free float. So now I find myself in the same position as so many others before me, what decision should I make? Does anybody have any advice for me, or can anybody point me towards a free float solution that I've missed or not considered? Am I a dummy to care about the quad rail? There are options for rail covers after all, and plenty of people seem to like them. Sometimes it just takes a different viewpoint to make a good point or change the perspective, so any input is appreciated.

  2. #2
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Posts
    846
    Feedback Score
    1 (100%)
    I believe Troy made the Delta rail for exactly this reason, but it is difficult to find now. Of the rails you mentioned, I would go with the C4. Rail is rock solid, relatively light weight, free float, and locks up to a standard barrel nut. They can be difficult to find as well, but of your choices, that would be my first and only. If you want to get away from a Quad and get a more rounded rail (like most out now), there are a ton of offerings in Keymod and MLok, but I don't remember seeing any that would work with a FSP in the way you want it to. If you want to go that route, you may just have to bite the bullet, shave down the FSP, and put a new rail over it.

  3. #3
    Join Date
    Nov 2013
    Posts
    1,141
    Feedback Score
    18 (100%)
    What do you want to mount to the handguard? If you're just mounting a light and maybe some kind of control accessory, the MI drop-in's are fantastic. I have a set of the KeyMod drop-in's that I use to mount an M600U, and they're lighter than polymer handguards, they offer a more streamlined light placement than the polymer choices, and they're thin, which I like.

    Of the ones you've listed, I've used the drop-in MI's of course, MI's two-piece free-float quad rails in a couple different lengths, and a couple C4's on rifles that weren't my own. The C4 is a better design than the MI of similar style, so between those, I'd go with Centurion's design. My MI's held up fine, but I will go C4 in the future if I need a two-piece free-float. And between free-float or drop-in on general purpose rifles, I really don't care. If I'm not mounting something that requires being zeroed, and I'm not going to run a bipod or a sling as support, I'll pick whatever offers a form factor I prefer. If you want a slimmer handguard, go with the MI drop-in's or pop the FSB off for a KMR9A or similar.

    And don't sweat a BCM FSB removal. I actually quoted BCM's how-to in the thread you linked, and it's a very easy process. I wouldn't, and haven't, let that drive my choice of handguard.
    Last edited by Uprange41; 02-15-17 at 19:59.

  4. #4
    Join Date
    Dec 2012
    Posts
    748
    Feedback Score
    4 (100%)
    Voting on a non drop in free float too. Just make sure you can get the taper pins loose before buying.

    That being said, I have a delta rail and it is nice. Just looked a few ebay sellers have the Troy and Vtac deltas listed.

    Scratch that advice. Carbine deltas listed. Only 1 used mid delta listed.
    Last edited by JasonB1; 02-16-17 at 12:49.

  5. #5
    Join Date
    Dec 2012
    Posts
    1,123
    Feedback Score
    0
    I've always heard that the C4 is the go-to rail for those who don't want to remove the FSB and use the existing barrel nut.

  6. #6
    Join Date
    Mar 2014
    Posts
    1,864
    Feedback Score
    3 (100%)
    Quote Originally Posted by tehpwnag3 View Post
    I've always heard that the C4 is the go-to rail for those who don't want to remove the FSB and use the existing barrel nut.
    +1 C4 is the way to go if you want to keep your FSB.

    Another option would be to shave the FSB and install another rail that utilizes the standard barrel nut.
    “I predict future happiness for Americans, if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them.”
    Thomas Jefferson

  7. #7
    Join Date
    Jul 2012
    Location
    Oregon
    Posts
    335
    Feedback Score
    0
    I have the C4, but dislike the quad-rail section. I have been thinking about milling off the side and bottom rails.

    Seems like there would be a market for a modern (keymod, mlock), tight-locking, free-float drop in rail.

  8. #8
    Join Date
    Jun 2006
    Posts
    13,140
    Feedback Score
    2 (100%)
    Quote Originally Posted by tehpwnag3 View Post
    I've always heard that the C4 is the go-to rail for those who don't want to remove the FSB and use the existing barrel nut.


    Agreed, I own my fair share of them, and really like them.
    Stick


    Board policy mandates I state that I shoot for BCM. I have also done work for 200 or so manufacturers within the firearm community. I am prior service, a full time LEO, firearm instructor, armorer, TL, martial arts instructor, and all around good guy.

    I also shoot and write for various publications. Let me know if you know cool secrets or have toys worthy of an article...


    Flickr Tumblr Facebook Instagram RECOILMAGAZINE OFF GRID RECOIL WEB

  9. #9
    Join Date
    Jan 2017
    Location
    Colorado
    Posts
    394
    Feedback Score
    33 (100%)
    Thanks for the replies everybody, keep 'em coming. There's some great points being made and this thread is very helpful so far.

  10. #10
    Join Date
    Jan 2012
    Location
    Stafford, VA
    Posts
    209
    Feedback Score
    0
    Quote Originally Posted by Mr McSimon View Post
    Hi guys. This is my first post here, although I've been lurking around for the last few weeks after deciding to finally start my first AR build (thanks to my wife and a stipped lower Christmas present). Before deciding to post I was able to read through and research from this similar thread, among other places, but it's pretty old and I didn't want to necro, so I'm hoping for some updated info. I also hope I'm posting in the correct forums to keep all the mods happy.

    To date, I've been collecting up parts, but now I'm stuck on hand guards. I've got a 16" mid length BCM upper barrel assembly with an A2 front sight that I'm not looking to remove or replace, partly because I'd hate to screw up a top notch piece of equipment with my noobiness, and thanks in no small part to this scary thread, but also because I like the look and I wanted a front sight mounted to the barrel/gas block vs. the rail. I really like the idea of drop in free float rails, but the only ones I can seem to find are the Centurion C4, Troy, MI Gen II, and Daniel Defense Omega rails. Of those I think I like the DD or MI versions best, but I was hoping to avoid a quad rail in favor of something a little more smooth and round.

    In contrast to those free float versions, I also like the MI 2 piece Keymod or M-Lok drop in's, as they're more the shape and feel I'm looking for, but ofc they're not free float. So now I find myself in the same position as so many others before me, what decision should I make? Does anybody have any advice for me, or can anybody point me towards a free float solution that I've missed or not considered? Am I a dummy to care about the quad rail? There are options for rail covers after all, and plenty of people seem to like them. Sometimes it just takes a different viewpoint to make a good point or change the perspective, so any input is appreciated.

    Not my cup of tea, but here's an inexpensive option that seems to fit your desires. http://lmgguns.com/product.utg-pro-4...im-hndgrd-carb
    NRA RSO
    USPSA RO
    SASS RO-I & RO-II
    Certified Black Powder Artillery (Maryland)

Page 1 of 3 123 LastLast

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •