Discreet weapons "bodyscanners" coming to a mall near you:

[Bulletdog]

Some of you guys don't seem to realize that this being a totally ineffective way to stop violent criminals is not the point. They don't care about that. The point is to keep the good guys out of that area, or at least totally unarmed and defenseless if they still choose to go there. Just one more way to harass and intimidate people who are and have no intention of doing anything wrong. Just one more demonstration of the left's ignorance and arrogance.

Let's all just hope this doesn't take off.

[Moose-Knuckle]

Yeah malls are dead.

They only build these open air things now where instead of fighting over one parking space and walking indoors all day you have to fight over multiple spaces in front of each store you want to visit. Genius!

As for the scanners, so what are the mall ninjas supposed to do if they detect a weapon, call 911? What if the person is legal CCW holder?

Stupid.

[davidjinks]

I'm happy someone posted the obvious.

Malls are just the start. I know it was posted earlier, but this is the bridge that will cross over into everyday life if it's allowed to move forward. Internet is great until you have to take your dog for a walk and they've got scanners on the streets.

If I'm not mistaken, NYC was trying to get a similar program passed. I believe it was or still is in a testing/proving phase.

Do you and your significant others buy all of your clothing and footwear online? If not then you may want to rethink the "it doesn't affect me" mentality. Just sayin'

[davidjinks]

In regards to the last part of your post:

Depending on state/laws, if a property owner says no guns, it's no guns. The law abiding will follow this, the criminal will not. As much as I think it's pointless to limit constitutional rights where do we go in regards to whose rights are more right?

In PA a "posted" sign means nothing. Until you're asked to leave. Then you have to leave. It's that owners right to say they don't want you there. It's your right to say goodbye.

Yeah malls are dead.

They only build these open air things now where instead of fighting over one parking space and walking indoors all day you have to fight over multiple spaces in front of each store you want to visit. Genius!

As for the scanners, so what are the mall ninjas supposed to do if they detect a weapon, call 911? What if the person is legal CCW holder?

Stupid.

[TAZ]

This is about control and noting more. It will not prevent anything aside from decent law abiding folks going to other places to shop.

I can see them being set up in parks, grocery stores, schools ... if the costs can be lowered.

We will have law suits that will redefine what privacy is and I can guarantee most of us won't like it.

People need to figure out what triggers these and then go about creating as many false alarms as humanly possible. Either by exercising your legal rights to carry or simply by pocketing one of those "L" shaped garden hose nozzles. Did I ever tell the story of the Bundeswehr guy with the MP5 in my face at the airport after my bag went through with one of those? Glad I had new underwear in the same bag...

[Honu]

or at least schools maybe delayed 8 more years or 4

if these came out in obama times I could see all schools and all fed buildings having them on every door

as I said above to about false alarms and then on top if they stop you let the lawsuits start big time and hope they stop you with force and larger lawsuits
then on top lawsuits about health concerns etc..

This is about control and noting more. It will not prevent anything aside from decent law abiding folks going to other places to shop.

I can see them being set up in parks, grocery stores, schools ... if the costs can be lowered.

We will have law suits that will redefine what privacy is and I can guarantee most of us won't like it.

People need to figure out what triggers these and then go about creating as many false alarms as humanly possible. Either by exercising your legal rights to carry or simply by pocketing one of those "L" shaped garden hose nozzles. Did I ever tell the story of the Bundeswehr guy with the MP5 in my face at the airport after my bag went through with one of those? Glad I had new underwear in the same bag...

[Bubba FAL]

Yeah, I hear exposure to those scanners causes all kinds of cancer, especially in children.

[Phillygunguy]

I someone needs to come up with a holster kinda like wallets that block RFID but block radar or whatever the hell else that thing emits

[ABNAK]

We can all bitch about where the scanners may end up being placed in the future (and rightfully so), but the real question is whether there can be criminal prosecution for firearms possession detected by said scanners. Hell, even in a big time anti-gun environment (like NYC for example) just where does the 4th Amendment apply? I'm afraid I know the realistic answer but it's bullshit nonetheless.

[SteyrAUG]

If they put them in malls, they will put them in Wal-Marts, grocery stores, gas stations, city parks, flea markets, etc.

The goal is to make carrying a firearm like smoking: not to be done in public.

This is the new battle for us: we have to start right now shutting this down completely and permanently.

I suggest if you live in a city where these sensors are being installed, that you inundate the managers and owners of that shopping mall with as many letters, emails, calls of opposition as you can organize.

Not sure where you live, but just about everyone here still smokes in public. Not sure the "gun shame" is gonna be any more effective. We can't even get people to not smoke weed in public places and that's actually a crime still.