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    I've decided by that poster alone..
    I am over Alien.

    Alien was a classic. Even if you saw it as a prequel to Aliens. Ripley was betrayed by a robot and lost her crew to merely drift in space. The Alien was genuinely creepy because they got a skinny, lanky long Manute Bowl looking black dude to slink around in a biomechanical yet otherworldly way.

    Aliens was a masterpiece. Ripley, suffering anxiety over LV-426 accompanies a platoon of battle hardened Colonial Marines. Expertly cast, all practical effects, the Colonial Marines were awesomw, Ripley confronts her literal demons, befriends an artificial person, and the ending was great.

    Alien 3 had a good soundtrack.

    Alien Resurrection had a tomboyish cute pre-felony Winona Ryder.

    Prometheus, despite my liking it, wasn't really an Alien movie. It was a quest for God. Beyond that...lame.

    Covenant looks like CGI, jump scares, and the same ol' stuff just diluted and lame.

    I do not and have never cared about the origin of xenomorphs. They are just that part of space where creepy stuff comes out. Like a tiger or a bear. You don't question it. You avoid it.

    As far as I'm concerned.....the Sulaco was picked up by the US Space Navy, Ripley adopts Newt, marries Hicks, they buy a house in the hills, grow old, and die. The word is out on Xenomorphs, any suspected nests are nuked. Anyone dumb enough is considered crazy like the grizzly bear man and the Predators dont mess with humans and the humans dont mess with Predators.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Firefly View Post
    I've decided by that poster alone..
    I am over Alien.

    Alien was a classic. Even if you saw it as a prequel to Aliens. Ripley was betrayed by a robot and lost her crew to merely drift in space. The Alien was genuinely creepy because they got a skinny, lanky long Manute Bowl looking black dude to slink around in a biomechanical yet otherworldly way.

    Aliens was a masterpiece. Ripley, suffering anxiety over LV-426 accompanies a platoon of battle hardened Colonial Marines. Expertly cast, all practical effects, the Colonial Marines were awesomw, Ripley confronts her literal demons, befriends an artificial person, and the ending was great.
    End of an era, well it ended some time ago, before the advent of CGI even.

    It's like those wonderful 1950s sci fi films. Sure the special effects are dated, but there is something appealing about Harryhousen stop motion animation and it was a long time before we saw anything as intelligently imagined as "The Day the Earth Stood Still" or "The Thing From Another World."

    Alien established the founding of a new era of sci fi film. There were few like it besides the sequel "Aliens" and I'm hard pressed to think of another film since with the same impact.

    I think Covenant is going to be even more of a "popcorn movie" than Prometheus. Gonna just wait for Netflix.
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    I saw Alien in the theater during its original run while home on college break.

    Week night, old style (1920s) theater that seated 1000, yet I was the only one there that night. It was before the little led nightlights along the carpet, just a dim exit light at the emergency door.

    The combination of big screen, complete darkness, large open space, and not another soul nearby amplified the effect. The semi decrepit nature of the theater and balcony behind me just added to the mood.

    It *felt* like I was there in the dark and gloomy spacecraft cargo bays!

    Probably the most intense sci-fi movie experience I've ever had.

    You don't need deafening superdolby sound and billions of CGI to make a good movie!

    The original Alien rules!

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    Quote Originally Posted by pinzgauer View Post
    I saw Alien in the theater during its original run while home on college break.

    Week night, old style (1920s) theater that seated 1000, yet I was the only one there that night. It was before the little led nightlights along the carpet, just a dim exit light at the emergency door.

    The combination of big screen, complete darkness, large open space, and not another soul nearby amplified the effect. The semi decrepit nature of the theater and balcony behind me just added to the mood.

    It *felt* like I was there in the dark and gloomy spacecraft cargo bays!

    Probably the most intense sci-fi movie experience I've ever had.

    You don't need deafening superdolby sound and billions of CGI to make a good movie!

    The original Alien rules!
    Great story.

    I remember vividly going to the theater to see particular movies. I always preferred going by self as a group of friends always wanted to talk or some other nonsense.

    Now that I have a little one I sneak out once he's asleep, I prefer catching the last showing on a weeknight. I usually have the place to myself, nothing like it.
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    I harbor no illusions this movie will meet the bar set by the originals. I enjoyed Prometheus and the thought provoking, if flawed plot. I don't think I'll be disappointed in this film either.

    As for the guys messing around with the alien snake just remember how Alien started. The guy was poking around on the huge egg with a visibly gestating alien inside.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Waylander View Post
    I harbor no illusions this movie will meet the bar set by the originals. I enjoyed Prometheus and the thought provoking, if flawed plot. I don't think I'll be disappointed in this film either.

    As for the guys messing around with the alien snake just remember how Alien started. The guy was poking around on the huge egg with a visibly gestating alien inside.
    Yeah, curiosity is one thing, but as soon as that egg opened I'd have set a "man in space suit" track record. You can tell me what was in it later when I'm back on the ship and we send an unmanned rover.

    Doesn't even have to be a big ass alien to kill you, contamination by alien bacteria is all it takes to end your life.
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    Ridley Scott Reveals the Origin of His Androids in the Alien Saga

    LET’S SAY YOU’RE a massive interplanetary corporation that’s sending a ship into space. It would be irresponsible to do that without having a company man on board, right? Without someone keeping an eye on things, the crew might go rogue or try to escape a killer alien. And, as Ridley Scott reasons, it’s “better if the company man is an AI [and] no one aboard knows who the AI is.”
    https://www.wired.com/2017/03/ridley-scott-video/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moose-Knuckle View Post
    Ridley Scott Reveals the Origin of His Androids in the Alien Saga



    https://www.wired.com/2017/03/ridley-scott-video/
    IIRC, Ash was picked up last minute prior to the crew investigating the distress beacon in Alien. This ties in witht the easter egg you mentioned earlier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteyrAUG View Post
    Yeah, curiosity is one thing, but as soon as that egg opened I'd have set a "man in space suit" track record. You can tell me what was in it later when I'm back on the ship and we send an unmanned rover.

    Doesn't even have to be a big ass alien to kill you, contamination by alien bacteria is all it takes to end your life.
    Putting myself into a situation to have an an alien facehugger attack me would be at the top of my 'what the f*** did I just do?!?' list for sure.

    On top of that the crew is all relaxed like 'oh, well.' Then they aren't even really freaked out and decide to cut into the thing and drip acid blood everywhere.

    Then when the chest buster comes out of the guy instead of locking all the doors and taking a look at the cameras they walk around in no suits or anything. They just get a cattle prod and a little net to try and catch the baby alien.

    It's really pretty funny when you go back and watch it again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Waylander View Post
    Putting myself into a situation to have an an alien facehugger attack me would be at the top of my 'what the f*** did I just do?!?' list for sure.

    On top of that the crew is all relaxed like 'oh, well.' Then they aren't even really freaked out and decide to cut into the thing and drip acid blood everywhere.

    Then when the chest buster comes out of the guy instead of locking all the doors and taking a look at the cameras they walk around in no suits or anything. They just get a cattle prod and a little net to try and catch the baby alien.

    It's really pretty funny when you go back and watch it again.
    Yeah, they definitely picked the right crew if "bring back a live alien at all cost - crew is expendable" was the goal. It really was like watching people try and herd mice with a broom and dustpan.

    Once Kane got facehugged, I'd have rigged a med bay in an airlock and put him under a 24 hour watch. At a minimum, if the parasite dropped off I'd have done a full body x ray. Even by 20th century medical standards they were incompetent. They had a really small window to medically remove the alien and save Kane, and by extension everyone else. But hey let's treat it like a flu bug that just went away and assume everything is going to be fine.

    The fact that they didn't engage in a systematic lockdown and search by sector once it killed Kain is just baffling. But they very much had a B squad crew, even Dallas couldn't make decent decisions and he was running the show.
    It's hard to be a ACLU hating, philosophically Libertarian, socially liberal, fiscally conservative, scientifically grounded, agnostic, porn admiring gun owner who believes in self determination.

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